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Old 05-03-2006, 02:33 AM   #475
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As I walked back home from school (takes almost an hour), I had time to think a little this Owl/goose -stuff that bothered me a bit already earlier. And I must admit being a bit more anguished by it now. And as we will have at most two chances to win this game, I don't think we can afford leaving any stones unturned.

Assuming we didn't have two Owls - or any other miraculous things going on (someone given an extra-dream etc.), then it should be clear that of our two owl-candidates, one was the owl, the other was the goose. No ordo would start that kind of game.

We have quite all accepted Mith as the owl, and Glirdy as the goose. I admit, having somewhat being of that opinion too. But now I'm not so sure anymore (not meaning, I'm sure the otherway-around is true).

If we look at both of them, one at the time, as Owls, they both make sense. Mith was coming under some attacks and she was facing her bedtime. If she would not react, she might just wake up in the morning, finding out herself dead - and two dreams of innocents lost from the village, possibly a third one with the Nitghtingale's help.

But Glirdy then? He had a dream of an actual duck. In the case of his death at night (you never know) we would have lost all the dreams (one duck, one innocent) and would be left in the hands of a false Owl (by that time it was a possibility that Mith might even be a very bold duck). In a game where the giftedness is not revealed in death, the life of an Owl is much harder - and I believe, revealing just one duck could be wiser than to risk losing it altogether.

Both acted a bit strangely, as their giftedness was questioned. But surely Glirdy failing to dream the next night was the weirdest thing. It was just so astonishing, that it might even be thought of as a genuine failure to dream?

But the problems arise, when we start thinking about the goosiness of these two. So let's see both of them as a goose this time.

Glirdy as goose seems to me just totally insane character. What possible thing might he had in mind? If he tried us to disbelieve Mith's annoucement, he took the hardest (and the most unprobable) way possible. He decided just to guess for a duck! From the village then, he had a chance of 1/5, and had he missed, he would be dead himself the next day.

Mith as a goose seems much more effective. As she was only revealing innocents, she could hope to hit a duck eventually. Well: the best gift a goose could give to the ducks would be taking the position of the Owl and manage to declare a duck innocent! That would be fantastic indeed...

Well I have some more thoughts about how this could affect our current situation. I'll come to them in a moment.
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