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Old 05-27-2006, 12:47 PM   #9
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And since LOTR is an allusion to WW2,is it possible that the Elves,being the Chosen people,are an alllusion to the Jews?~Letty
I would have to disagree with you there, or atleast me personally. Tolkien hated allegories and he didn't want to use them in LOTR, becuase this would restrict the meaning of his books. He opened his books out there with no intent on trying to relate to a specific event in his life or in time. Here are just some of MANY quotes where Tolkien personally denies trying to allude to anything:
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Its sources are things long before in mind, or in some cases already written, and litttle or nothing in it was modified by the war that began in 1939 or its sequels.~Foreward to LOTR

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The real war does not resemble the legendary war in its process or conclusion.~ibid
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...my mind does not work allegorically~Letter 144
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The story is not about JRRT at all, and is at no point an attempt to allegorize his experience of life.~Letter 183
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There is no symbolism or conscious allegory in my story.~Letter 203
Tolkien repeatedly strongly denied using allegories. But he does say this:
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Other arrangements could be devised accordingly to the tastes or views of those who like allegory or topical reference. But I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and have always done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history, true or feigned, with its varied applicablity to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse ';applicability'; with ';allegory; but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.~Foreward to LOTR
In some cases Tolkien would tells us what he was trying to show (for example he says the Numenoreans to him seemed more like Egyptians). However, what he does to is give freedom to the readers to come up with their own meaning. And which is why he refused to deal with "allegories," because this set strict meaning upon the text. If his readers so desired they could find "allusions" and "allegories," but Tolkien personally did not write them into his story with an intent of saying "This is my experience from WW2." If that's what the reader thinks, than that's the readers own personal interpretation. But, I disagree with the statement that LOTR is an allusion of WW2, because that sets a strict meaning to LOTR, and that's not what Tolkien wanted to do.

So, LOTR is NOT a book alluding to WW2. For me personally, in some cases it looks like it in some cases I think not. For me personally, "The chosen people" is not an allusion to "Jews." If that's your interpretation, then that is your opinion and your interpretation when reading Tolkien's books. But, to say that that was Tolkien's opinion, I think he would disagree with you.
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