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**lindil** · 04-08-2003, 01:53 PM

'Does this mean that the Istari were just as powerful as the early Elves?'

No, it means Balrogs were tough critters.

They too were incarnated Maiar like the Istari, Glorfindel and Ecthelion may have killed Balrogs, but they were unusual [and long lauded]in that. Many, many more Elves were killed by Balrogs than the reverse. No matter which strata of the Legendarium you read.

re: 2 - The High Elves would never truly be content outside of Valinor and the Undying Lands they were [at least the original Exiles] able to by dwelling in Rivendell near Vilya and Lothlorien near Nenya [and prior to that in Lindon with Gil-Glalad] been able to experience something of the timelessness and unfading nature of Aman, but at the passing of the power of the Rings, the technology that held time somewhat at bay was removed and maybe similar to the Fellowship departing Lothlorien back into the cold grey world, so had also Middle-Earth become to them...

Vardamar allow me to echo Eruanna in congratulating you! May you enjoy it many more times, and also enjoy all of th Silmarillion that was left out and is scattered throughout HoM-E and UT.

[ April 08, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ]

04-08-2003, 01:53 PM	#3
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	'Does this mean that the Istari were just as powerful as the early Elves?' No, it means Balrogs were tough critters. They too were incarnated Maiar like the Istari, Glorfindel and Ecthelion may have killed Balrogs, but they were unusual [and long lauded]in that. Many, many more Elves were killed by Balrogs than the reverse. No matter which strata of the Legendarium you read. re: 2 - The High Elves would never truly be content outside of Valinor and the Undying Lands they were [at least the original Exiles] able to by dwelling in Rivendell near Vilya and Lothlorien near Nenya [and prior to that in Lindon with Gil-Glalad] been able to experience something of the timelessness and unfading nature of Aman, but at the passing of the power of the Rings, the technology that held time somewhat at bay was removed and maybe similar to the Fellowship departing Lothlorien back into the cold grey world, so had also Middle-Earth become to them... Vardamar allow me to echo Eruanna in congratulating you! May you enjoy it many more times, and also enjoy all of th Silmarillion that was left out and is scattered throughout HoM-E and UT. [ April 08, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ] __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.