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Originally Posted by Macalaure

Did Haldir have to be a 'main character'? If we didn't need him at Helm's Deep, there's no reason to even tell his name in Lórien. And mixing Elladan and/or Elrohir into some of the Rivendell scenes wouldn't have been such a big thing.

But they would have added/slowed the pace of the Rivendell scenes where the focus was to be otherwise. Besides FotR, Elrond, Arwen and Bilbo, just who else is introduced in Rivendell? PJ might even have skipped Bilbo but we needed to get Sting and the mithril coat, plus we needed that constant reminder that the Ring was Evil. If you don't have time for Glorfindel at the Fords, then surely you don't have time for E&E. Plus, instead of scouting the area/traveling with the two sons, Aragorn was hanging out with Arwen.


[quote]Well, they are terrible at fighting. I forgot to write that in the last post, but this quite annoys me, too. They should be better fighters even as the common rohirric soldiers, not to mention children and old men, but they do nothing but shoot some arrows and then die. I think it's due to the meaning of this particular battle. It is supposed to be the heroic hour of the Rohirrim and their king Arag..*cough* Théoden, and not of the elves. So all they can do in the end is die an honorable death - as Haldir exemplary does.[quote]
It's just annoying. If you're going to rewrite history and have Elves at Helm's Deep, at least make them look respectable.

And comparing anybody's fighting to Legolas' fighting is just not fair - he has the quiver of plenty...

Naw...he just is quick about picking up all of the arrows that his compatriots fail to shoot.

And neither is Peter Jackson, I would say.

In one of the commentaries PJ is made out to be some type of general, wanting all of the battles to appear realistic (don't quote me, it's in there somewhere and I'm stating my opinion of what is said), but that may have been misguided praise.

As they can shoot over the wall into the attackers, so can the attackers in turn since the wall doesn't protect them in their position. But this is not really important, I guess.

Nope. The elves are in a better position (at least until the next sequence). They are on higher ground, can purportedly shoot further and have a screening wall between them and the Uruks. With Aragorn acting as their spotter (or not), they need only to shoot in the general direction of the large group of Saruman's army to have an effect. The Uruks would be experiencing a rain of arrows and would only be able to shoot back, blindly, from where they thought that the arrows were coming. There would be no guarantee that an Elf would be hit, unlike when the elves returned fire. Plus, the crossbows assumedly do not have the range, or the orcs would have sacrificed their own people and shot everything off of the wall top. Any orc on the wall that was silly enough to attempt a crossbow shot at these archers would be cut down (by Gimli) whilst reloading.

But then again, this is not only fantasy, but PJ's fantasy world, and so sense is left at the theatre door.