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Old 07-03-2006, 10:59 AM   #101
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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife
Moving on, Nogrod is sending off warning bells. Sure, strong agressive attacks were once his hallmark, but he made a point about toning that down. Now he attacks Eomer for not making a vote that he himself wouldn't make. If Nogrod was around at the end like he claims, why didn't he make a vote to save Form after Glirdan's vote?

Scolding others for doing nothing when he himself did nothing? It seems like he's trying to hide his own guilt by loudly pointing it out in others. He may have let up now, but that doesn't change what he did. If anything, it bears the mark of flip-flopping.
I'm glad you brought that up Roa, because I wouldn't have caught it. But what I do find interesting is the fact Nogrod is urging everyone who was around to change their votes to follow the path he saw fit. He seems to have taken it on himself to pick the paths of this village. He's not "blaming" Eomer for not helping in saving Glirdan, but that all looks very fishy. Nogrod said he didn't find Form or Glirdan guilty, but obviously some people did because they voted for them. However near the end of the day and toDay Nogrod is saying we, as a village, should have tried to save them, but by switching our votes to who? It's impossible for every single person who voted Form or Glirdan to be a wolf, so the innocents who voted must have thought they were voting for a wolf and Form last vote declared his innocence and Glirdan's death declared his. I don't like how Nogrod is acting on the whole affair.

Also looking to Form's post about Day 1, I didn't feel it was much to suspect Form on and when I did suspect Form it was because of the responses (mainly from Roa and Nogrod) that I suspected wolfish activity and I still do.

Form's Day One post and the reactions
After Form's first post Kuru mentioned we should all give our best ideas in helping to catch the wolf. A few others mentioned how terrible day one is, but Nogrod was the first to really attack what Form said. He claimed acting like that was just an excuse to be lazy and Nogrod brings up an example of a past game, but remember this isn't a past game. This is played with new players and different roles, a past game has no real bearing here.

Kuru calls attention to Form and suggests maybe he's trying to lead us down a path as a wolfish tactic.
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It seems to me that perhaps Signore Formendacil could be acting just a shade manipulative. His predictions could be a cleverly concealed tactic to direct behavior in a particular direction...since once predictions are announced, people have a tendency to perversely do the opposite. However, this might speak in his favor since he's lamenting...
Clearly this swayed some people because the next post was Glirdan putting in his vote for Form. Looks rather bad that Kuru was the one to sway an innocent villager into voting for Form. I don't think Kuru said that with the intent of someone quickly jumping on it to vote, but it's noteworthy.

Roa was the next to really say something about Form's Day One post.
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Anf frankly, Form, if you think it ought to be obvious that Day 1's are useless, why bother stating it? Face facts- those who think they are useless will continue to think so. Those who think they aren't will continue to do so. The only thing statements like yours do is sidetrack us from the problem at hand.
Reasonable enough, but unneeded. Nogrod makes the next post and says he agrees with what Roa had said about Day Ones. He then keeps going about this and that, when a simple I agree could have worked.
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Think of a village inhabitated with 15 Forms! Everyone would just exclaim how stupid saying anything is. How could they decide their votes on any Day? Their Day1 would become Day2, Day3 etc... And surely, they would have made sure, that their votes had been in random, because there is nothing to go for... understandably.
Complete overkill on what Form said. The next post was a quick statement from Roa saying it was time to move on from the arguement about Day 1.

Form responds to what Nogrod has said, a defense of what he said.

Mith is the next and says what Form has said is too formulaic. Points out that Roa and Nogrod are both right that Day 1 can be productive. I come on next and make my Form/Nogrod/Roa theory based on the rebuttles of Nogrod and Roa to Form's post.

Looking at all that I now have three suspects.
1) Nogrod- For his constant return to Day 1 can be productive and Form you're wrong, and so on. Nogrod said he thought Form was innocent, but he drew a lot of attention to him with his Day 1 thing. Also for his thoughts that people should have changed their votes to save two "likely innocents" at the end of the day. I don't like the way he is trying to tell us what we should have done. He goes after Eomer for not changing his vote when he was around near the end. I'd like to hear from Eomer in the subject. And finally to agree with what Roa said, he made no action on his own end of the day plan.

2) Kuru- A distant second to Nogrod. The main reason I suspect Kuru is because his post about Form trying to stir us down a path is what caused Glirdan to start up the Form bandwagon. It was a slight accusation, but enough to influence someone else which may have been Kuru's plan.

3) Roa- I'm just following up on what I said yesterday. Her and Nogrod's rebuttles to Form still have me worried. Though that's all I have to go on right now.
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