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Old 07-04-2006, 04:12 PM   #147
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Night changes many thoughts

Looking at yesterDay's posting a second and a third time I have a clearer and a bit different view of things.

Things got interesting yesterDay with Nogrod's post #72, where he accused everybody for not being around at the end of Day 1. The flaw in it was, that he said that he alone could not have done anything. He could just have done anything to save Form and Glirdan and see if somebody shows up then. He didn't. Insomnia and smoking (#76 & #77) then make him focus his attention on Eomer, of whom he is sure that he was around. Eomer is honest and admits it (#82), but does not see any guilt in it. He defends himself convincingly, to me.

Then Jenny presents her analyses. Note that she thinks Roa (#88) and Kitanna (#90) more suspicious than Valier (#92) and Mith (#93).

Roa criticises Nogrod among other things (#96) and this will shortly after make things ugly. She intentionally or unintentionally misunderstands Nogrod. She says Nogrod is after Eomer for not voting, but he's after him for not participating at all. She accuses Nogrod of flip-flopping with weak reason and the tiny word "claims" made even my alarm bells ring.

The following posts by Kitanna (#97 & #101) are interesting. In the first she defends Eomer. In the second she starts with a criticism of Nogrod, adopting the misunderstanding of Roa saying she wouldn't have caught it without her. She says Nogrod wants to call the paths of the village and calls him fishy. What follows in that paragraph then actually does make some sense.
I don't know what you think, but her words leave me with a bad feeling. They seem more than a little sneaky to me. Hard to put it in words.
Then she analyses the reactions to Form's posts. 'Surprisingly' she finds Nogrod suspicious in her conclusions and part of this is plain wrong.
Her points about Kuru make me lift an eyebrow. This might (and I mean might) have been a mild wolf-on-wolf suspicion to look good if one is lynched. Kuru doesn't react to this in any way.
Roa is more on the innocent side to her.

Now Nogrod answers to Roa (#103), waiving all diplomacy goodbye and going toe-to-toe with her, not a wise move after just being toe-to-toe with Eomer. To him, her misunderstanding was intentional among other things. Calling innocent villagers who go after him pathetic in #105 was just not nice.

A few votes and minor important things after comes Roa's response to it (#125). She apologizes for her misunderstanding and finally I understand what she meant with Nogrod claiming to be there. But, Nogrod wanted to save both Form and Glirdan before Form's revelation which came right at the deadline - when Nogrod presumably had already given up and wasn't reloading the page every 10 seconds any more.
The more Roa writes the angrier she gets and it's this what makes her believable to me. Not everything she says is justified, but her outrage feels real: she seems to just have read Nogrod's accusation.
He then accuses her of posting the answer late intentionally so he cannot answer, but I don't think so.

We're getting closer to the deadline and Jenny sees the only possibilities for voting to be Nogrod and Eomer. Eomer flew under her radar so far and she waits to quickly check him out. She comes to the conclusion that Nogrod is a bit more suspicious than Eomer and votes for him 2 minutes before deadline. If she was a wolf and so was Eomer, I don't think she would have waited, since Eomer was one retraction or vote by Kuru away from being lynched. But, Jenny, if I understand you right, then Roa and Kitanna were two of your top suspects. They both voted for Nogrod, too!

The Day ended with Kuruharan. Kuru, where were you yesterDay between 2:34 and 2:59? You were around and could have made the difference which you then lamented of not having. Very, very strange.
Very convenient to him, be he wolf or not, was agreeing to Eomer in #124, that even lynching an innocent Nogrod has its benefits. One benefit for Kuru is not having been suspicious to Nogrod.

After all, my suspicion of Roa decreased. I still think that either she or Kitanna is a wolf, but Kitanna's teaming up with Roa is one-sided, so it is Kitanna who's on the top of my list.
Kuruharan seems very odd to me.
I still don't know what to do with Eomer.
Jenny, Mith and Valier look more innocent to me.
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