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mormegil · 08-23-2006, 10:53 AM

Gandalf was a bigger failure than Frodo! What did he do that actually worked that he can claim was his work? He didn't defeat a balrog...the balrog defeated himself. He really didn't do much at Helm's Deep except to come and get the stragglers. The Hurons really did the work their. He failed with Boromir and let him loose himself. He, instead of lending his aid, let four unaware hobbits take on ruffians and an ex-wizard who still had some power, why risk it? Just be done with it. He failed Frodo in that he wasn't there to aid him and were it not for Samwise, who sadly isn't in the mix, the entire quest would have failed. The only thing that Gandalf did that wasn't a failure was his fireworks.

08-23-2006, 10:53 AM	#393
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Gandalf was a bigger failure than Frodo! What did he do that actually worked that he can claim was his work? He didn't defeat a balrog...the balrog defeated himself. He really didn't do much at Helm's Deep except to come and get the stragglers. The Hurons really did the work their. He failed with Boromir and let him loose himself. He, instead of lending his aid, let four unaware hobbits take on ruffians and an ex-wizard who still had some power, why risk it? Just be done with it. He failed Frodo in that he wasn't there to aid him and were it not for Samwise, who sadly isn't in the mix, the entire quest would have failed. The only thing that Gandalf did that wasn't a failure was his fireworks. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”