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Old 08-26-2006, 01:10 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by davem
Well, to clarify, I didn't mention Quenya at all......Lucifer is the Light Bringer & is the Morning Star - as is Earendel. However Venus as the Morning Star was associated with John the Baptist in the Crist ('Eala Earendel, engla beorhtast..& all that stuff) as the Morning Star was a 'precursor' of the Sun.

I think Tolkien is using the latter 'myth'. not the former. So I will make myself clearer to Lalwende in future before I let her post anything
We have such a pick of star myths to choose from. Then there is the Classical one. Orpheus, consumed by grief over loss of Euridyce (and the failure of his quest to bring her back), is taken by Apollo to the stars, from where he can view her forever. I suppose that Earendel doesn't quite view the underworld though, just Middle-earth and we know that Tolkien did not appreciate classical literature as much as Northern. (And, on the other hand, Frodo is given a similar kind of consolation in being taken West when he cannot overcome his despair. Could Frodo look back at Middle earth and see what was happening?)

The problem with this kind of linking is how to distinguish which are the most likely and the most unlikely and what principles to use in making the associations. For example, Elrond is a father and official leader of the Elves. He has fought in wars. These are traits not shared with Jesus. At least, unless we grant credence to the Da Vinci Code.
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