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Originally Posted by Tuor in Gondolin
What about this for a scenario (perhaps including captive Arwen)? Elrond and Aragorn know that if they have the ring they probably can't dispose of it after disposing of Sauron, so they agree that immediately after Sauron's gone the one without the ring will kill the one with it (or nudge him into Orodruin---in a setting rather like the scene of Isildur and Elrond in the movie)?
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Isn't that called, "getting Gollumed?"
And the Ring wouldn't permit itself and its bearer to be pushed. After overthrowing Sauron with the Ring, the bearer would have been hooked; the symbiosis could not be reversed.
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And would such a scenario work with Faramir (book Faramir of course) vis-a-vis Boromir?
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Not exactly sure what you mean. Do you mean that Boromir would get pushed by his brother?
With either case I just get this feeling that the act of 'pushing' would begat yet another evil. It smells too much like Saruman's kind of thinking.