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Old 01-16-2007, 10:50 AM   #48
Legate of Amon Lanc
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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne
Why was it so important for the Valar to keep Aman "man-free" ?
It was not their fate, as it was said, they were destined by Eru to something else. The Undying lands were something of an "equivalent" of death for Men in that the others couldn't come there, as well as the Elves couldn't die. This is also why the tale of Beren&Lúthien is important (apart from that it's so beautiful and sad), because it clearly shows this.
I think you might also use the word "Faërie" for Aman (as it is used in Hobbit, for example), and as we know, this was a very important word for Tolkien. I think if you read the essay "On Fairy Tales" and also "The Smith of Wootton major" (this one especially), it will be clear to you. Because even though this does not connect directly with the ME, I think for Tolkien it had overall validity.

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Originally Posted by Rune son of Bjarne
If there is something better for them after death, would that not mean that Eru rewarded them for invading Aaman?
Okay, I hope this is meant as a joke... but, someone before posted here that it was not said what was there after death... only that they'd join the Second Music of Ainur... but this was at the end of times, after the Last Battle... and Day of Doom... They were not alive anymore, after all. Which brings me to... hmm, it must have been super-cruel to Ar-Pharazon not even to let him die(but after all, this is what he wanted)... do you think Eru gave him to the hands of Valar, that he'll be judged with the Elves? By Mandos? Okay, off-topic...

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet
please note that I have simply used logic to reach the only conclusion that can be reached.
I did as well. And I expected nothing more.
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