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Old 01-17-2007, 06:22 AM   #5
Legate of Amon Lanc
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Originally Posted by Břicho
I think that Tolkien was probably thinking of Thingol and that story when he wrote it, never realizing that nearly seventy years later
Shhh! Of course I know, but this is not what a hardcore Tolkien fan accepts

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Originally Posted by Břicho
Inside the world of Middle-earth itself I would explain it in one of two ways:
NOW this is what I call constructive thinking After all, "what's written is given" - Bilbo has written this book and we have to find out why he wrote what he wrote. All your points on that are quite logical, I think. The thing is, can we find something which might narrow down our list of possibilities? Some evidence from another source, about the Dwarves, about Thranduil, about the job he had them to do, or evidence that Thranduil could have never made contact with any Dwarves in the Grey Mountains?
Do you think Bilbo was really yet "uneducated" when writing the Red Book? He made revisions of it, from time to time, I'm quite sure (take just the title, he changed it about five times). And he was long enough in Rivendell to correct the things he was not able to understand first. An example of something similar in another topic: he, for example, rewrote the original poem of a mariner to the form we hear in Rivendell, where he made clear all the details and that it was about Eärendil.

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Originally Posted by Kuruharan
The only dwarves we know about in the Grey Mountains were Durin's Folk. I don't think there is any traction there.
Well, there was this mysterious tribe who had troubles with Scatha and Fram sent them the necklace of dragon teeth or what it was. We do not see if they were of Durin's folk, or do we? (calling experts... Kuruharan??? )
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