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Originally Posted by Hilde
Secondly, would the average non-orc even be able to tell a female from a male orc? If so, perhaps the plea might be from a female who's not keen on being locked up with the males!
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Well, I think we're going to go with the idea that Orcs reproduce in the same way as humans and Elves, so we can assume then that female Orcs have mammary glands. While that's certainly not always a give away, I imagine their voices are a little more...matronly? Perhaps their facial features are a little softer? And I imagine their a little lighter in build, though probably not by much.
I think confusion regarding this will definitely happen, though, when the slaves and fellowship first see them. I'd say we can assume that they'll see something different, though, and someone will suggest that they're...*gasp* female? I'm guessing the Orc-women might have something to say about the uncertainty there...
That's just me making assumptions. Does that sound at all plausible?
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Originally Posted by Hilde
Firstly, I have always assumed that orcs were quite at home in pits and holes. But perhaps chaining them together will keep them out of mischief...or maybe they will get into worse mischief underground!
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Good point...perhaps that should be worked in. (Don't we have enough going on? Yeah, yeah, probably...) Or, here's my attempt to explain it away: Well, the orcs are going to be found completely "wasted" at first, to put it bluntly. And from then on...well, I imagine they'll be closely guarded. And considering we've got people who have person grudges against Orcs, there are some that aren't going to hesitate to kill them on the spot if they make a move, which will be made clear, I'm sure, in various ways.
Wow, the Orc-human/elf/dwarf/hobbit relations are starting off really rough...
Nogrod -
I understand your concern with your character's actions and situation being determined.
Child and I have been working with the assumption that all the Orc men in particular have been drinking quite a bit, thinking they can relax because everyone's dead and surely having something to celebrate because all the stuff in the camp is theirs (and we thought that this had been agreed upon, sorry we were mistaken). By the time the slaves and fellowship there, we guessed they'd all pretty much be out. Dragging passed out drunks into a pit is just rounding them up.
If you'd prefer a couple exceptions for you and
Regin's character, I don't see a problem with having additional unexpected guests - two male orcs prepared to defend the females, children, and male orcs in the pit could only encourage the slaves and fellowship to decide that killing them was not the best idea. Not only do the have Aiwendil's warning, but then they'd also have two angry male orcs and some female orcs who are probably nearly just as fierce to deal with, and while their victory is simply assured by numbers, they really don't want any death, and certainly not more after their battle.
So, to put it simply, in my opinion, it is up to you...I don't think
Child will have a problem adjusting things (that's why she posted the plans), but I will not speak for her.
And I agree,
Nogrod, that Beloan should be one of the advance party. I actually was thinking of having him kind of initiate it by asking those who have seen the slaver camp where it is and if they have any idea how much supplies there might be...and get the ball rolling on a group to go scope it out and pick up some things. Lindir might be the one to really do that, though. Joint effort?
I hope that helps everyone at least an itty bit, and I'm sorry if I missed anything...