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Old 03-01-2007, 05:45 PM   #310
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Mithalwen
I don’t see why some people have wished to argue about her first post. I’m more inclined to think those who raise it over and over again as an issue to be far more suspicious than Mith who defends herself from it. If anyone has time to check who have been the proponents of this suspicion, I would be grateful indeed.

Overall Mith plays very sensibly and makes good points (reminds Garin has been perplexing earlier too, urges us to believe Rikae’s revelation at the closing hours, points to tgwbs’s oversimplification according to how to read Roa’s analysis) and sounds innocent (sighs what to do as the Seer should be saved but the frontrunners look innocent to her, gets desperate with people clinging to her first post again and again, almost flips at the end of Day2 as we were to lynch an innocent from numbers).

But. I’m a bit worried about the way she was ready to jump on lynching basically anyone except Roa and as soon as I half-jokingly said that Spm would do for me she produced the justification that because Spm quibbled and voted hastily for Roa she would vote for him. And just a few minutes later she says:
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Only 10 votes ..that is pants.. all the wolves could have abstained..or all voted and be horrifically influential.......
Now this is just the fear we should all see. I think Mith meant that the wolves are horrifically influential in the vote that had already taken place, but think also that with retractions they can steer votes even more horrifically. So why should we give them more numbers by letting Roa live? Not to say by way of actually shooting in the dark towards almost anyone. We know the mathematical ratios of random votes + have experiences about last minute frenzies... they are both bad and exactly those where cool wolves & cobblers love to play their game.

I’m not sure. Maybe she didn’t just think of this? I would say I do not suspect her a lot but I have a little nag in the back of my head still.


Kath
Kath has maintained a presence but with very little to go on. As a veteran player she knows how to survive the first Days and she seems to be at it yet again. The problem is that she every now and then turns out to be a villain and in the endgame she can be the most efficient wielder of the dagger.

But there is one thing I find a bit bothersome. She has slightly defended Mänwe on both Days. And on Day2 it seemed pretty strange. First she reminded us that Roa will not know any more of us villagers than we do but still she uses Roa’s suspicion of Mänwe as point we should note on his possible innocence.

Now this is a funny coincidence as I have already voiced my slight suspicions on Lommy who has indeed done the same thing, indirectly covering for Mänwe (look at my post #248). Now I know the werecreatures will normally not protect each other openly if one gets caught etc. (well we have exceptions to this rule also...) But this is somewhat indirect covering for him as he as a newbie has possibly taken a bit too loud way of playing the Faithful-role of his?

I don’t know what to say, but if Lommy or Kath turn out a wolf then it’s likely that Mänwe is one too. But as Kath’s reactions coincide with my other slight suspicions I must say that I do suspect her too.
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