Okay, let's move in the day. First, to Nogrod's first posts and the discussion following: I think it is not good to consider only a "shortlist", as Lalaith and tgwbs adviced. But Nogrod could be of help and we'd do best to "judge" our own thoughts or suspicions in the light of the one innocent's thoughts. Because, if you move your thoughts through the points of Nogrod and re-think them, it is likely you find something that might correct your thoughts. When, of course, it's everyone's job to do so for himself. But if all the villagers do that, I think it might help to shrug off the tangles of misleading hints of the Faithfuls.
One first thought about Mithalwen:
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Originally Posted by Thinlómien
(Mithalwen)'s concentarting on things an innocent wouldn't maybe concentrate on (like the Roa-SPM-Nogrod triangle on Day1), but her consistence in demanding to lynch someone else than Roa (which I could very well understand) speaks for her innocence.
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Actually, I don't think this would make her innocent. I think it might as well either have served her to keep Roa alive to help the Faithfuls vote (less likely), or served her to hide behind "being different" (under the candle is the least light, or if this proverb exists in English).
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Originally Posted by Mithalwen
We can kill Roa anytime , we need dead wolves.... we would be better off lynching a non participant.
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Originally Posted by Mithalwen
I stand by my decision to try and "save Roa". Roa was certainly NOT a wolf. Anyone else MIGHT have been a wolf. If you have a chance against a certain failure why is it so suspicious to choose the chance.
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There is a third thought, however, that is convincing us to quickly change our votes from Roa to someone else - and trying to pick someone else instead of Roa (even more in such a rush) might mean picking an innocent as well, and if we picked an innocent, it would have been a triple-kill for the wolves.
It is something I have to think more of, since Mithalwen has been already debated at start, where I didn't find her suspicious. This time it seems to me, however, something different.
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Originally Posted by the Saucepan Man
Both Brinniel and Rune appear to have thought it more likely than not that Roa was lying, and yet voted for someone who might be guilty or might be innocent, seemingly on very little evidence. I am fairly sure that one of these two is a Faithful. Possibly, they both are, given that Rune has said on a number of occasions that he finds Brinniel suspicious, but has never voted for her. Possibly, Legate and one of these two are Faithfuls, since, with Roa the most likely to be lynched, this would have been a good time for a Faithful-on-Faithful vote.
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The last can be dropped, SpM, I am really not a Faithful. But after considering this idea, it occurs to me it might have something in it. Because: unless the Faithful completely missed this voting, then it is three innocent going against themselves. But, if one of us three were to be a Faithful, then I'd be most suspicious about Brinniel. The main point is that in her posts she generally just throws a suspicion, or hints something which might then be used to rouse suspicion, and that's mostly all. If she were a Faithful, it would indeed serve its purpose.
EDIT: Cross-posted with the Saucepan Man and Brinniel.