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Originally Posted by Raynor
This is one thing that the critics of the rohirrim don't seem to want to take into account. Also, I would go further than saying they simply flamed the enstrangement.
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Not exactly sure what you mean (as I'm just entering this discussion), but just because a Wizard or other prattles on in your ear, it doesn't mean that you have to listen. I only note the involvement of Saruman/Sauron as there is historical precedent (i.e. Freca, if I have that right).