[Nogrod]

This is a long one, but please read for your own sake.

It's done with a mind to seek for problems. Deliberately. My wild idea that Mac and Roa are lovers made me try this. I'm not sure if that's the case anymore. It might be, though. But there's clearly something wrong with Mac.

It's only Day1 and 2. But looking at the clock made me stop right here. I've said a lot of Mac's posting toDay already.



Macanalysis (in the style of Devil’s advocate)

Day1

#16 Reasonable first post. Reminds us of those who would love to speculate on roles: we should beware those. The only one who arises suspicion that far is Glirdy.

Funnily it’s Roa who had thus far spoken most about the roles. Still there is no mention of Roa in the post. And at that point there clearly was none other who looked downright suspicious but Glirdan. Had he not said that Glirdy looked suspicious he would have been asked afterwards why didn’t he. So he was forced to do that.

#29 He says he doesn’t want to defend Roa but that he doesn’t see anything suspicious in her. Encourages talking with saying there are more stupid wolves around one might think. Says not happy to vote The Sixth as it’s his first game.

So in his first post he says speculating about roles is suspicious, in his second he says Roa (the main discusser of roles) isn’t suspicious at all... Also the point about stupid wolves is interesting. Maybe he was frustrated with the way Glirdy had played? Speaking on behalf of The Sixth is nice and good. Any good wolf takes care to have some nice air around him.

#32 Answers tgwbs that he dislikes people who downplay Day1’s.

#51 Makes points against tgwbs and says he will probably be voting for him. Says the only other one he has found suspicious is Glirdy but that he “would rather hear of him tomorrow”.

Now one main issue here was that tgwbs had suspected Roa and Mac didn’t obviously like it. Also were hew a wolf, he knew not that tgwbs was the cobbler. So a dangerous one on the right tracks and thence he needed to get rid of him. Nice wording also in defence of Glirdy, a known wolf...

#55 Points to the possibility that Xyzzy hasn’t probably noticed the game has started yet. Opposes lynching him at the moment.

Mr. Nice-guy again. But note also: The wolves won’t kill the quiet ones, so persuading the villagers not to do that either is sound wolf-tactics. The more silent-ones there are in the end, the better for the wolves.

#70 For lack of any new ideas he produces a vote-count.

#75 Says he is suspicious “to some degree only” of tgwbs and Glirdy, but as lynching Glirdy on Day1 has “seldomly been a good idea” he votes for tgwbs. Says he has the feeling nothing’s gonna happen in the last half an hour so he might as well cast his vote and avoid the last-minute frenzy.

Nice way of ducking the Glirdy-vote again (even though I agree with him on this). If he was a wolf / lover with Roa, his vote for tgwbs is most understandable. The way he detaches himself from the last action is more interesting though. He washed his hands from all speculation that was going on and just voted and said he’d leave. Now any decent innocent would like to get all the information possible, discuss ideas with others etc. He didn’t. He had made his mind and went with it. Now who does this if not wolves? They have no problems or insecurities about things. They can just vote and leave comfortably as they know things.

#78 Agrees with me that tgwbs is not a gifted because of his playing style. Makes a joking reminder of a certain Rangrod.

Nice way to clean his reputation when tgwbs turns out innocent – or if he would actually turn out a gifted. A possibility a wolf should not miss if he thinks of his situation the next Day!

#92 Admits he tried to cause a bandwaggon on tgwbs but notes it backfired. Says he won’t care whether he’s suspected or not. Disencourages everyone from voting Lommy.

With his admission he probably is honest. Not caring about being suspected. Don’t make me laugh! Of course we all care of it. Everyone. But why to state that? To look innocent?

#99 Asks Brinn why she voted for Roa at that time.

Day2

#111 Analyses the votes and takes a closer look of a few suspects. Ends up suspecting Lommy and Brinniel the most. Somewhat clears The Sixth, Roa, Mith, Legate, Rikae, Nogrod. Of Lommy he says the vote she made was the only possible for her werre she innocent or a wolf. Suspects Brinn of defending Glirdy and Lommy and criticises her vote on Roa – thinks she should have voted tgwbs instead.

Interesting that Lommy earns her top suspicion even as he says that voting Glirdy was her “only real option”. So how come you suspect someone who does the only reasonable thing there is? We know Brinn is innocent so that’s for it.

#137 Wonders why I thought his point about tgwbs’s voting a good one. Releases Brinn because of her explanations. Praises Roa’s analysis on me (*bows* even). Analyses my voting situations from the point of view I’m a wolf. Ends that up by stating he’s puzzled. Suspects Lommy because she said we’re doing fine.

I answered the first point already in the thread. Praising Roa’s analysis is a mark of either a poor judgement (Macalaure has a good judgement) or intentional malvolence. Tries to add on to Roa’s points with continuing the suspicion Roa threw over me. The end-product: surely he’s puzzled as I’m no wolf – and he had no ingenuinity enough to paint my posting black.

#157 Tries “a new approach” and lists whom he thinks are innocent and then goes for those who are left. Innocents will be: Brinn, Legate, Mith, Sixth. Very probably innocents are: Rikae, Roa, tgwbs. Unsures are Gil and Xyzzy. That leaves myself and Lommy to be suspected. Of me he says it looks good form one angle and bad from the other. He suspects Lommy in earnest. Defends his tgwbs bandwaggon-idea from Day1 once more.

Interesting how Brinn got so fast the clean papers – and tgwbs, the known cobbler as well! Roa stays safely on the probably innocents –group. Clearly he has nothing against me (From one angle I’m innocent from another not – please... anyone could say that from anyone. So why to say it? Because you want to keep me along the suspicious ones? And why is that? Because you know I’m innocent and you’re not?). Also ot’s interesting how sure he becomes with his suspicion of Lommy. With no actual points added she has raised from somewhat suspicious to his first candidate...

#163 Makes analysis of the posting of Lommy from Day2. She does not cry a wolf but isn’t too innopcent looking either. Downplays her case against Lommy a little but says she doesn’t have better ones either. Wonders what rivalling bandwagons would appear to match the three votes for Lommy coming.

Funny how he can make an analysis and end up in saying there’s nothing overtly suspicious there but still retain his posturte that she’s the number one suspect! No innocent would do that!

#166 Makes the suggestion we have a cursed villager among us.

#177 Defends his last post to Legate. Says he meant the discussion between Roa and tgwbs while answering to Mith. Says Roa is right in here bewcause it’s possible she’s right.

This all left me a bit puzzled. What was this all about? And why bother to underline that Roa is right if something is possible? And why was he inventing / speculating with this in the first place as he seems to be very eager to suspect others from discussing different roles. So what did he achieve by this? It was all too clear that the no-kill was due to the wolves missing their posting to Menel, so why on earth these two posts?

#180 Speaking of who would have missed the kill is a low-level werewolf.

Reaching for the moral high-ground after a personal blunder?

#187 Votes for Lommy to stop waiting.

Nice. No further reasons given and the previous reasons are somewhat lacking as well. And safely early vote enough not to entangle himself woth the hard decisions of the last minutes. Nice and clean again. Detached I would say once more. Wolvish.

#191 Asks if he could persuade anyone to vote for Lommy with him.

#196 Answering why he voted Lommy. Day1 she voted for Glirdy but disencouraged others to do it. On Day2 a general aura of dishonesty, refers to his analysis on Lommy.

Interesting again. He had already himself said that Lommy had no other choice on Day1. Many of us didn’t like the idea of voting Glirdy on Day1 as it has been done many times and it has always ended up badly. So Lommy was no different here from many others. Of Day2 he himself first said that it didn’t cry a wolf but didn’t look too innocent either. Now he says there is a general aura of dishonesty. So what changed? Lommy didn’t post in between these posts on Mac. So he’s in contradiction with his own analysis here?

#202 makes a vote count-up. Reminds that it looks familiar.

#208 Speculates about the last votes. If Legate votes Lommy it’s for Rikae to decide. Edits with *shakes head*

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Some more general points to follow...