[Shastanis Althreduin]

Page 2 done. Time's almost up again. Will edit momentarily.

Legate, rebutting Boromir's post about my post (thanks for that, by the way):

Originally Posted by Legate

Well I think we'd agree that without accusations we'd get nowhere. However, the ones who care the most on getting someone under any suspicion are the Vampires. So I find Shastani's comment rather in place, or at least I see it "unharmful". It's good in my opinion not to give too much into feelings or first sights and so on on the first day, because we don't know anything yet, basically. Of course accusing is needed, but not just headless.

My notes: Actually, this is the first forum I've played on where first day s happen with regularity (at least, I assume they do). On the others, they're usually discouraged.

Rikae defending herself:

Originally Posted by Rikae

How have I lied? Do you mean my in-character comments about Mac? I was...flirting...with...him. Capisci?

My notes: [frivolous]Is that how you spell the word pronounced "kapeesh"?[/frivolous] It ought to be clear now that Rikae was just bantering.

Nogrod explaining his suspicion, and being caught in a lie (or misunderstanding)

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Not so much that (as I said already) but with Gil. You accuse him of in-character accusations (alongside with Spm) and I don't think he has made any. On the contrary he has been pretty reasonable in his posting so far...

My notes: Gil was the one making accusations, not Rikae.

Rikae explaining:

Originally Posted by Rikae

Gil jumped on my comments about Mac; which were (I thought) blatently in-character/meta.

My notes: I thought so too... Nogrod is suspicious in my mind now.

Kitanna making a mistake:

Originally Posted by Kitanna

It seems unlikely, but unless I've read the rules wrong the vampires have a seer, a ranger, and a hunter on their side, correct? All of those folk receive votes, as does the shade. That's four votes that the voter could lie about to the village.

My notes: It's possible that she just made a mistake, but I thought the rules were pretty clear.

Meneltarmacil stubbornly blaming Rikae:

Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

Hmm, I must say that Rikae doesn't seem to be creating a lot of trust for me at the moment. She comes up with a meta-explanation and then tries to shift the blame onto Gil-Galad. Not that I'm inclined to think of Gil as absolutely , but given the erratic style he usually uses, he makes a good scapegoat.

I'll probably vote for Rikae toDay.

My notes: Rikae already explained that she wasn't the one accusing people with in-character banter, so I fail to see why you're still suspecting Rikae for that reason.

Diamond being a rebel:

Originally Posted by Diamond

Honestly, I don't really feel like announcing who I vote for.

My notes: Posting votes help the s, the MC said it was legal, I fail to see why you'd wish to hinder that.

Rikae casting suspicion:

Originally Posted by Rikae

OOC - rather, Menel thought me suspicious for suspecting Gil, though he admits Gil looks suspicious. This should send warning signals to anyone...but ...bah. Go ahead. Lynch me.
I am the weaver!

My notes: If Menel is suspicious of Gil, why is he suspicious of Rikae for also being suspicious of Gil?

Meneltarmacil defending himself:

Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

Rikae, I didn't say that Gil looked particularly suspicious. He was simply an unknown on my list.

My notes: Didn't you say you "didn't think him particularly ", though? I could be wrong, I don't have that post quoted. I'll go back and look.

Roa, voice of reason - Post #60, Page 2 (more on this momentarily)

Brinniel, also suspecting Rikae:

Originally Posted by Brinniel

For now, the only one who sticks out to me is Rikae. Her accusing behaviour is most disconcerting, and I find that she is rather...what's the word...jumpy, I guess is how I could describe it. Unless someone else suddenly turns suspicious to me, she remains my most likely voting candidate.

My notes: You'd be jumpy too, if suspicion was on you.

Sixth defending Gil:

Originally Posted by Sixth

This will sound like I'm defending Gil, but last game he accused me and others relatively shakily and it turned out he was . It is quite hard with him to tell if he is or what.

My notes: I haven't played here before, so I'm not up on posting styles, so if someone could confirm this for me, I'd appreciate it.

Eomer setting a trap:

Originally Posted by Eomer

Kitanna is a vampire. I am very suspicious of what she has done.

My notes: Clever of him.

Lomia stating my thoughts:

Originally Posted by Lomia

I don't see what this mess about Rikae is. I think she seems pretty normal and bantery. Noggie and Gil seem to be allied against her, and I find it very weird.

My notes: My thoughts exactly.

Mac, suspicious of Rikae defending herself:

Originally Posted by Mac

Anyway, please, don't be suspicious of Rikae for flirting with me, I'd make me feel guilty.
The thing that does make me suspicious of her, however, is that she does little else than flirting, in-character things, self-defense and a flimsy case against Nogrod and Gil.

My notes: The case is a bit more than flimsy. Gil accused Rikae of accusing people with in-game banter, and Nogrod lied/made a mistake and accused Rikae of accusing Gil of accusing people with in-game banter.

Mac suspecting with no evidence:

Originally Posted by Mac

Boro has already said it, and I agree: Legate is being too nice for my liking, too.

My notes: Why?

Mac suspecting with no evidence, continued:

Originally Posted by Mac

I'm also perceiving some strange karma from Meneltarmacil.

My notes: Again, why?

Rikae falling in the trap:

Originally Posted by Rikae

"I think Eomer has a good point about Kitanna. I can't quite believe she would honestly make the mistake of thinking the gifteds were on the vampires' side. I would be interested in hearing more from her.
And as for you, Mac, I ought to suspect you for claiming I made a case against Nogrod when I did not.

My notes: Eomer doesn't have a point, it was a baseless accusation. Why'd you jump on it?

Rikae turning the tables:

Originally Posted by Rikae

As I recall, I said I didn't trust Esspiem and Gil. In retrospect, though, since Esspiem had self-defense to think of and Gil is almost always suspicious; Menel's reaction worried me more. I admit, I made a mistake in my response, translating "accusing people based on in-character bantering is suspicious" to "Gil is suspicious" in my mind, simply because that's what Gil did when he called me "very suspicious" for "suspecting two people" (Mac and Esspiem.)

My notes: The part about Gil being almost always suspicious doesn't really make a lot of sense, in context.

Mac apologizing for his mistake:

Originally Posted by Mac

Ack! Gil and Espiem, I meant.

My notes: This was probably an honest mistake.

Eomer springing the trap:

Originally Posted by Eomer

Rikae mentioned that I had 'a good point about Kitanna.' But I didn't. I didn't have a single point about Kitanna. All I said was that she's a vampire and then, from nowhere, Rikae and Celuien are on her case. You, Lommy, can't understand their reasoning, and neither can I.

My notes: The fact that Rikae and Celuien both targeted Kitanna says that either they're looking for an victim, or they're following someone blindly. Since I hardly believe the latter, I have to stick with the former, at least for page 2.