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Old 05-17-2003, 08:12 PM   #35
Feanor of the Peredhil
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"Orcs did have a choice though.
According to the Sil (I am aware
this isn't very accurate) orcs
are elves that Melkor mutilated
and twisted, making them into
orcs. They still bred like the
First-born, though."

I'm not seeing the choice. Does a test-tube baby have a choice? Am I completely missing the point? I'm really tired, so that's pretty probable. But if Melkor 'made them' and he made them 'evil', then how could they choose to be something besides what they are? And isn't it true that you can't change who you are?

Also, I agree that since ME isn't actually 'real', although it is real to so many... but since it's a fantasy world, it's hard to define things by the same standard as would be done on our Earth.

And one more question/thought thingy before I fall asleep in this chair: The Elves, who were (to me) the essence of goodness... some of them shown with the Light thing, right? Galadriel's phial was filled with light and was used when things were 'the darkest' and all. Frodo, at Rivendell after the whole stab thing and the will to continue type stuff, Gandalf thought to himself (if I'm remembering right) that Frodo could eventually end up like a light shing for those who could see it or something like that... I'm getting this strong connection to goodness=light and evil=dark. How on Earth did things as simple and beautiful as light and dark come to have such important meanings as good and bad? Where did this idea come from? Cheerio for now, all.

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