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Old 06-02-2007, 06:18 PM   #131
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I'm leaving in those who are already dead for now as it helps when looking at what they said about others.

Day 1:

xyzzy - turns up and in typical Day 1 style throws suspicion toward the only person who has so far commented, me. This sparked quite a bit of debate but I don't really see anything wolvish in it. Returns to say that his suspicion was only a joke.

Shasta - in character banter. Argues with Nogrod that he isn't suspicious, but agrees that xyzzy is. Mentions that Izzie may not know what a Cobbler is due to her newbieness. Now this may be true, but if there is a Cobbler in the game there's nothing to say that the role hasn't been given to Izzie, in which case she would know exactly what one was. Or she may have read over old games. Assuming the ignorance of a newbie is a mistake I have made before so I aim to avoid it this time! Mentions his own relative newbieness in a rather more subtle way by asking for the history of the Boro/Menel feud.

Menel - began the loud/quiet wolf debate. While it's great for us in terms of numbers it's almost a shame that he died so quickly, as we don't really know which side of the coin he was on. He puts himself firmly on the 'lynch the quiet ones' side. I don't think Menel is a careless wolf and so wouldn't fling out clues so early, but it is possible that this is a piece of misdirection. This plan rarely gets much support, so it may be that his fellow wolves are quiet players. Thinks xyzzy looks wolvish. Defends himself against Boro, and says that xyzzy could still be a wolf even if his comment was a joke. It's a fair point even from a wolf. Continues to argue for lynching the unhelpful, seemingly as a defense against Boro.

Rune - questions Menel. Says that the 'lynch the quiet ones' thing tends to cause the death of more innocents than wolves, but then says that if we're to do it we should do it early so we're not scared to later in the game.

Nogrod - random nonsense for a while followed by a demand for people to speak. Throws some suspicion on xyzzy (seriously, can I spell that Zizzi? It's how I pronounce it and it's driving me nuts trying to remember to spell it correctly!) for being immediately accusatory and Shasta as well for saying something without actually saying anything. It's an odd post just in that he is doing pretty much what he's just become suspicious of others for doing. Only 5 people had posted before him, all very early on in the Day. Expecting novel length pieces of useful information is a bit hopeful! He gives support to Menel, but Menel really didn't say anything useful. He just repeated something that is said at the beginning of pretty much every game. It's just odd. Tries to make clear that we should only lynch the quiet ones if we have no one better to lynch. It is a fair point but I often wonder what the cut-off point for being 'quiet' is. If someone posts once a Day just to vote with no timezone reasoning behind it then maybe we could count that, but if it's a useful post? The lines for this are so unclear. Then decides I am suspicious looking but xyzzy is still more so.

Rikae - agrees with Nogrod that xyzzy was wrong to suspect me on the basis of being first to post, but then says she suspects me for the tone of my post. Then argues with Noggie, saying in character banter is normal for early Day 1. Thinks the 'lynch the quiet ones' policy is actually a good one and that Shasta is sending out wolf hints with the mentions of being hungry in his post. That's actually a pretty good find. If Shasta is a wolf am I right in thinking it would be his first time? Could be a newbie mistake. Not sure on that though, it seems a little pointless to put hints in the discussion if he knows who his fellow wolves are. Continues to suspect Shasta on the basis of the narration and also says Boro is being 'safe' in arguing against the 'lynch the quiet ones' strategy. This is where I got suspicious of her yesterDay. When I was reading through she was about the only one that really stood out because that post felt really quite antagonistic. The reread does nothing to take away the antagonistic feel, but I've read the points she's making now and they do make sense. No point in just having numbers at the end of the game, you need people who are going to take part at that point too.

Izzie - in character banter.

Boro - thinks Menel suspicious, arguing that lynching the quiet ones is silly because the wolves are always 'helpful' in a village. Also says his jumping on xyzzy was odd. Now this was a pretty incredible first Day for Boro! Getting a wolf in his first post. But at the moment I don't think this is suspicious. The old rivalry between the two would mean Boro was likely looking very carefully at Menel's posts anyway. Of course it could have been fantastic luck that both were chosen to be wolves and decided to start the usual argument between them, but for now I'm keeping Boro on the innocent side, especially after his rather lengthy explanation of just why he suspects Menel. It's another tone-based argument, but Boro often suspects and votes from feelings rather than facts.

Durelin - says not to talk about killing the quiet ones yet as not enough people have spoken to know who the quiet ones are. Apparently randomly votes for me as there's no explanation given.

Sixth - thinks we should lynch a quiet one just for a change of pace. Seems to be a 'Day 1 is useless' person and so thinks the lynch might as well be random, not something I agree with. Thinks xyzzy is suspicious for that first post. Thinks Guy was jumpy on accusing Fea. To me that post seemed pretty much typical Day 1 banter from Guy, so it's actually this 'jump' from Sixth that has me wary.

Lommy - agrees with lynching a quiet person if you don't have a good reason to lynch a loud one. Thinks Nogrod was hasty in his suspicion of Shasta and xyzzy so in his suspicion of me. Relatively innocuous statements really seeing as other villagers had already mentioned this. Also gets bad vibes from Boro. In fact, I don't like this post at all. Lommy is really quite indecisive with 'they could be this ... but they could be that' statements running rife through it. Definitely one to watch here.

Aganzir - ah! She made my point about Izzie knowing about the Cobbler if she is one. Oh well, at least I said it before I read it. Thinks xyzzy isn't suspicious and that the 'lynch a quiet one if you can't lynch a loud one for good reason' plan is good.

Guy - says lynch the quiet ones starting with Fea, so a typical first post from him.

Alright, it's one in the morning and I need sleep. I've only got through the first page of the thread so far but some interesting things have turned up all the same. I'll come back tomorrow and finish this off, making sure to keep a close eye on the xyzzy voters since he turned out to be innocent, as well as those who mentioned Menel and Rune. I see little point in concentrating on Durelin. She barely said anything during the Day and it seems that her death was almost accidental

Nogrod, Sixth and Lommy are the ones that strike me as not being quite right at the moment for the reasons mentioned above. They will certainly be on my radar when I return.
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