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Old 06-04-2007, 09:57 AM   #7
Morwen
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Originally Posted by Raynor
It seems that the limits of their foreknowledge is their memory of Ainulindale:
I agree and would add as a limitation their limited viewing of the vision of the Ainulindale as made visible to them by Eru :

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.... and while the Ainur were yet gazing upon this vision, it was taken away and hidden from their sight; .....for the history was incomplete and the circles of time not full-wrought when the vision was taken away. And some have said that the vision ceased ere the fulfilment of the Dominion of Men and the fading of the Firstborn; wherefore, though the Music is over all, the Valar have not seen as with sight the Later Ages or the ending the World.
Silm., Ainulindale
The ability of the Valar to foresee events in the Fourth Age and beyond is restricted, especially as these ages are dominated by Men who have the power to shape their lives beyond the Music of the Ainur.
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