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Old 09-04-2007, 08:04 AM   #61
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A few idle thoughts on what has been said since I was last here.

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Originally Posted by Brinniel
Izzy: Her posts are vague, focusing a lot on the narration. Yet, Nogrod's vote for her makes me suspect her as innocent.
The insubstantive nature of Isabelkya's posts troubles me too. And I would not put it past Noggie to vote for her, even if she is a Wolf too.

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Originally Posted by Brinn
SpM: His many mistakes in judgement yesterDay could make him seem innocentish...but then again, they could just as easily be calculated out by a wolf.
Harsh, but fair. I blame those darned cards ...

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Originally Posted by Brinn, again
I still can't figure out why he voted Lommy, and he seemed so reluctant to change his vote for Nogrod ...
It's rather beside the point now, so I won't dwell on it. Lommy's first few posts attracted my attention because the first gave me the impression that she was trying to look helpful without saying much of consequence, while the second seemed to make more than was reasonable out of the early banter (from Eolin and me). So I decided to accuse her aggressively and add a vote for good measure. In response she backed off from her suspicions of me saying she no longer found my posts suspicious and instead voted for Eolin with little reason, having earlier said that she would not vote for them without good reason, which to my mind simply confirmed my suspicions. I though it all added up to a rather good case, but it looks like Rikae had it right when she noted that it was all rather too obvious for a Wolfish Lommy.

And yes, just to compound my humiliation, I thought Noggie more likely innocent than not, even as I voted for him.

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya
In general, the people who had placed a vote, and refused to state reasons for it at the time; are a bit odd to me. Not necessarily suspicious, however it does raise my eyebrow.
You know, I am coming round to the view that there can be merit in voting without giving a reason, at least at the time the vote is cast. YesterDay, my intent was to see whether anyone else was thinking along the same lines as me about Lommy, without feeding them the lines. I am often accused of being (or of trying to be) too influential, so I am trying to tone down my lengthy and reasoned submissions. That said, the merit in requiring that votes be reasoned is that baddies will often have to construct reasons for the votes that they want to place, and that can help us spot them.

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Originally Posted by Eolin
We wonder why Thinlómien was killed, especially seeing how she had garnered more suspicion than most. She could have been mistaken for a gifted of some sort, or she could possibly have been used to frame someone. Perhaps The Saucepan Man.
I don't doubt that part of the reason was to frame me. I reckon that our enemy (or enemies) think that they kight have a good chance of getting me lynched toDay. Unforunately, they might be right. I also think it quite possible that they thought she might be Gifted. She attracted a fair bit of suspicion, and that can often be the way with Gifteds, as Kath points out. Indeed, perhaps she was killed because I thought her guilty, given my knack of voting for Seers, thinking them to be Wolves.

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Originally Posted by Kath
I said yesterDay that Sauce was acting quite normally to me, to which he responded quite violently and said that he had a reason for appearing not normal at all.
Well ... I think that 'violently' may be overstating it rather. And you are reading far too much into this. You said that you thought that I was acting normally. I disagreed that I was, because I was specifically intending to play far more aggressively and a lot less analytically than I normally do early in the game. It's as simple as that.

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Originally Posted by Kath
I'm quite set on these two as baddies ...
Well, you are wrong about me. Which is rather a shame, as I think you most likely innocent. But you could be on the right scent with Brinniel.

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Originally Posted by Kath
... but by the look of Shasta's post last Night it looks as though there are others to watch out for so my bizarrely early certainty here won't stop me looking at everyone else.
I'm not sure where you get this from. My reading is that the stargazer was a Gifted, possibly the Seer. There was one wailer, suggesting a single remaining Wolf (or Banshee) to me. It remains quite possible, however, that there is also a Cobbler, or some such thing, among us.
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