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Old 11-15-2007, 10:14 AM   #97
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Originally Posted by davem View Post
Morwen has always struck me as too cold & 'stand offish'. It does make me wonder how much her husband & so are trying to 'live up' to her standards. Maybe we should have looked more deeply into Morwen's influence.
There something odd in Turin's and Morwen's relationship. Weren't other humans successfully raised by elven foster parents (Aragorn II)? Weren't other successful humans sundered from their mothers at an early age (Eowyn, Faramir, etc)? What of all of the nameless faceless orphans that eked out lives amidst all of the disasters and wars that made up life in Middle Earth?

What was so special about Turin, except that he was the son of Hurin the Cursed (which is yet another issue)?

I found this link that may be of some interest regarding Turin's relationship with Morwen. Note that it deals with human psychology and relationships and so may be more than you want to read. You can see this somewhat informative list pegs Turin:
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Are YOU involved with a Mother-Bonded Man?

Does a man in your life ...

* obsess about his mother?
* acts as if women should serve him?
* cannot maintain a stable partnership?
* act like a child ... or like a tyrant ... or both?
* brag, lie and boast as he tries to be special?
* is a narcissist - he demands attention or he leaves?
* chase women - quantity not happiness is important?
* have few if any friends, and cannot commit to teamwork?
* does not care if he damages other people's relationships?
* do these things repeatedly but energetically deny them?
* avoid any form of coaching or counseling on these issues?
What effect did Morwen have on Turin's developing personality? Did she dote a little too much on Turin, using him as an emotional substitute for the missing Hurin? Could Turin not shake his feelings for his mother later in adolescence, making him maladaptive to normal relationships (i.e. Finduilas)? How did this relationship effect little Niënor? How was she 'broken' by a missing father, Turin and living life in the CoH days? Did, when the situation present itself, Turin find himself attracted to Niënor Níniel, as she represented something close to Morwen?

Cursed or not, Turin had psychological issues, and they revolve around mom. Morgoth may have cursed this family, but seemingly he needn't have done much, as they were pretty messed up to begin with.
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