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Nogrod · 12-08-2007, 03:00 PM

”Something the Flame said yesterNight got me thinking and I believe I’ve found a stinger that will really offer a challenge”, the Drop said as the werewolves gathered around the mallorn once again.

“I’m all ears”, the Flame responded immediately.

“I’m afraid I have no choice...”, the Shard muttered.

“Okay then Shard. Now are you a werewolf due to your own will? By your own choosing that is?” the Drop asked innocentishly.

“Of course not”, the Shard snapped back. “But what do these hypotheticals have to do with anything? I’m a werewolf whether it’s my own choosing or not and that’s what counts.”

“Ahh, but in morality it counts... and elsewhere too. Be patient my friend”, the Drop answered and continued. “So as a werewolf – not from your own choosing – could you decide or will to decide not to kill anyone?” The Drop grinned.

“Well...” the Shard managed to mumble.

“R-rright! That’s the point I’ve been looking for!” the Flame rejoiced. “If you can’t help it then you can’t be blamed on it either! You can’t say it’s good or bad to breathe as you just can’t help breathing...”

“And it’s even more radical than that”, the Drop announced solemnly. “We’re beyond goor and evil my brothers!”

“Just a moment... I think I’m getting your point, but...”, the Shard thought out aloud with half-voice. “But if you’re putting forward a thesis that says that we act according to what is our nature and perform quite well with it... it would also mean that we’re... good werewolves!”

“Good werewolves beyond good and evil?” the Flame chuckled, “Well look at the scoreboard. Definitevely good, not beyond anything else but a poor performance...”

“Please Flame. We're serious now”, the Drop put in.

“Okay, let me put it to you then”, the Shard said now clearly upbeat, following the train of his own thoughts. “I’ll make a new distinction for us. So what comes to our essence as what we are by nature - and which we can't choose - we’re good. Like a knife is good when it performs the tasks that make it a knife well... and as werewolves we’re the killers and we kill effectively so we’re good werewolves. But as moral subjects we are beyond good and evil because we have no choice but to do what we do...”

“That was pretty impressive! I was thinking exactly something like that!” the Drop applauded the Shard even if he realised his pun wasn’t the best one.

“Wait a minute then!” the Flame broke in. “Following this theory of yours I mean... What would you have to say about the hobbits then?” The Flame smiled widely.

The two were astonished enough for the Flame to take the word back to him.

“So my turn then? Now what kind of creature is a hobbit... a good hobbit?” the Flame grinned barely able to control a laughter.

“Generous... laughing..., friendly, warmhearted?” the Drop began.

“I see what you mean!” the Shard said. “So also peaceful, non-violent, never killing any one of his kin...”

“Ditto! And look at our hobbits here: quarrelsome, accusatory, ill-wishing, rude... and to top it all more than ready to kill each other!” the Flame paraded.

“Very bad hobbits indeed... both in essence and from the moral point of view!” the Drop yelled as he understood what the Flame meant.

“So, we’re the goodies and they’re the baddies!” the Shard underlined the proposition on the air.

After that there was no return. All the three werewolves roared with laughter and patted each other on the shoulders.

“Oh, my stomach hurts!” the Drop managed to wail in between the laughters.

~*~

“Okay then. We goodies have work to do”, the Shard reminded the others eventually, smiling widely.

“Yeah, let’s do it in a way that fits our new identity”, the Flame grinned.

“How about that one?” the Drop pointed at a gorgeous hobbithole some hundred yards from them.

“Isn’t that the Baggins? A fine pick I’d say...” the Shard nodded and followed the Drop.

“Bring her here to the mallorn, I’ve an idea... and bring some rope will'ya?” the Flame called after the two others who were already on their way.

~*~

The Shard and the Drop brought Lommy Baggins to the mallorn. She had stopped fighting back a long ago as she had realised she was no match for the two giant werewolves. The Flame then presented them with his plan holding two fireworks left by Gandalf in his claws.

“Now, here’s what we do... We’ll tie her arms to her body and then two of these rockets to her sides... and maybe that big one to her back”.

“Excellent idea! I’ve always loved fireworks!”

“And no more lullabies or round games... I’ve never quite liked them anyhow”, the Shard commented.

~*~

The hobbits woke that morning to the sound of fireworks going off. And as they went to their windows this was what they saw.

The Day rose just moments after the fireworks display was over. There were small pieces of hobbit everywhere as well as parts of clothing. The smell of sulphur still remained in the air. Lommy Baggins was nowhere to be seen...

~*~

The dead:
Nogrod (mod) - Noggie Boffin - beheaded and played soccer with on Night1
Nerwen (ordo) - Nerwen Hornblower - jumped to the river not to force anyone to kill another hobbit on Day1
Valier (ordo) - Vallen FurryFoot - skinned, grilled and served as a breakfast on Night2
Rikae (ordo) – Rikae Took - left the Hobbitton to find aid from somewhere in the middle of Day2
A Little Green (the Breath) - Lilla Greenhand - beaten to death by the hobbits on Day2
Legate of Amon Lanc (ordo) - Legate Sackville-Baggins - sacked, bagged & hanged on Night3
Satansaloser2005 (ordo) - Sally Shortbrush - rammed dead with a table on Day3
Mormegil (the ranger of the Shire) - Mormegil Harrybelly - stabbed to death on Day3
Kath (the seer of the shire) – Kath Woodyend - slashed into pieces during a round game on Night4
Meneltarmacil (ordo) - Lupo Furryface - pierced dead inside the Iron Hobbitess on Day4
Thinlómien (ordo) - Lommy Baggins - blown to the skies with fireworks on Night5

The living:
Aganzir - Agan Sackville-Baggins
Volo - Justy Proudfoot
Macalaure - Mac Sandyman
The Might - Might of Greenholm
Feanor of the Peredhil - Belladonna Briarpatch
Brinniel - Brinn Burrows
Farael – Farael Twofoot
Shastanis Althreduin – Shasta of the River
Kuruharan -Kuru Shrewthwacker

Day5 begins...

Three against six.

12-08-2007, 03:00 PM	#538
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Night5 ”Something the Flame said yesterNight got me thinking and I believe I’ve found a stinger that will really offer a challenge”, the Drop said as the werewolves gathered around the mallorn once again. “I’m all ears”, the Flame responded immediately. “I’m afraid I have no choice...”, the Shard muttered. “Okay then Shard. Now are you a werewolf due to your own will? By your own choosing that is?” the Drop asked innocentishly. “Of course not”, the Shard snapped back. “But what do these hypotheticals have to do with anything? I’m a werewolf whether it’s my own choosing or not and that’s what counts.” “Ahh, but in morality it counts... and elsewhere too. Be patient my friend”, the Drop answered and continued. “So as a werewolf – not from your own choosing – could you decide or will to decide not to kill anyone?” The Drop grinned. “Well...” the Shard managed to mumble. “R-rright! That’s the point I’ve been looking for!” the Flame rejoiced. “If you can’t help it then you can’t be blamed on it either! You can’t say it’s good or bad to breathe as you just can’t help breathing...” “And it’s even more radical than that”, the Drop announced solemnly. “We’re beyond goor and evil my brothers!” “Just a moment... I think I’m getting your point, but...”, the Shard thought out aloud with half-voice. “But if you’re putting forward a thesis that says that we act according to what is our nature and perform quite well with it... it would also mean that we’re... good werewolves!” “Good werewolves beyond good and evil?” the Flame chuckled, “Well look at the scoreboard. Definitevely good, not beyond anything else but a poor performance...” “Please Flame. We're serious now”, the Drop put in. “Okay, let me put it to you then”, the Shard said now clearly upbeat, following the train of his own thoughts. “I’ll make a new distinction for us. So what comes to our essence as what we are by nature - and which we can't choose - we’re good. Like a knife is good when it performs the tasks that make it a knife well... and as werewolves we’re the killers and we kill effectively so we’re good werewolves. But as moral subjects we are beyond good and evil because we have no choice but to do what we do...” “That was pretty impressive! I was thinking exactly something like that!” the Drop applauded the Shard even if he realised his pun wasn’t the best one. “Wait a minute then!” the Flame broke in. “Following this theory of yours I mean... What would you have to say about the hobbits then?” The Flame smiled widely. The two were astonished enough for the Flame to take the word back to him. “So my turn then? Now what kind of creature is a hobbit... a good hobbit?” the Flame grinned barely able to control a laughter. “Generous... laughing..., friendly, warmhearted?” the Drop began. “I see what you mean!” the Shard said. “So also peaceful, non-violent, never killing any one of his kin...” “Ditto! And look at our hobbits here: quarrelsome, accusatory, ill-wishing, rude... and to top it all more than ready to kill each other!” the Flame paraded. “Very bad hobbits indeed... both in essence and from the moral point of view!” the Drop yelled as he understood what the Flame meant. “So, we’re the goodies and they’re the baddies!” the Shard underlined the proposition on the air. After that there was no return. All the three werewolves roared with laughter and patted each other on the shoulders. “Oh, my stomach hurts!” the Drop managed to wail in between the laughters. ~~ “Okay then. We goodies have work to do”, the Shard reminded the others eventually, smiling widely. “Yeah, let’s do it in a way that fits our new identity”, the Flame grinned. “How about that one?” the Drop pointed at a gorgeous hobbithole some hundred yards from them. “Isn’t that the Baggins? A fine pick I’d say...” the Shard nodded and followed the Drop. “Bring her here to the mallorn, I’ve an idea... and bring some rope will'ya?” the Flame called after the two others who were already on their way. ~~ The Shard and the Drop brought Lommy Baggins to the mallorn. She had stopped fighting back a long ago as she had realised she was no match for the two giant werewolves. The Flame then presented them with his plan holding two fireworks left by Gandalf in his claws. “Now, here’s what we do... We’ll tie her arms to her body and then two of these rockets to her sides... and maybe that big one to her back”. “Excellent idea! I’ve always loved fireworks!” “And no more lullabies or round games... I’ve never quite liked them anyhow”, the Shard commented. ~~ The hobbits woke that morning to the sound of fireworks going off. And as they went to their windows this was what they saw. The Day rose just moments after the fireworks display was over. There were small pieces of hobbit everywhere as well as parts of clothing. The smell of sulphur still remained in the air. Lommy* Baggins was nowhere to be seen... ~~ The dead: Nogrod* (mod) - Noggie Boffin - beheaded and played soccer with on Night1 Nerwen (ordo) - Nerwen Hornblower - jumped to the river not to force anyone to kill another hobbit on Day1 Valier (ordo) - Vallen FurryFoot - skinned, grilled and served as a breakfast on Night2 Rikae (ordo) – Rikae Took - left the Hobbitton to find aid from somewhere in the middle of Day2 A Little Green (the Breath) - Lilla Greenhand - beaten to death by the hobbits on Day2 Legate of Amon Lanc (ordo) - Legate Sackville-Baggins - sacked, bagged & hanged on Night3 Satansaloser2005 (ordo) - Sally Shortbrush - rammed dead with a table on Day3 Mormegil (the ranger of the Shire) - Mormegil Harrybelly - stabbed to death on Day3 Kath (the seer of the shire) – Kath Woodyend - slashed into pieces during a round game on Night4 Meneltarmacil (ordo) - Lupo Furryface - pierced dead inside the Iron Hobbitess on Day4 Thinlómien (ordo) - Lommy Baggins - blown to the skies with fireworks on Night5 The living: Aganzir - Agan Sackville-Baggins Volo - Justy Proudfoot Macalaure - Mac Sandyman The Might - Might of Greenholm Feanor of the Peredhil - Belladonna Briarpatch Brinniel - Brinn Burrows Farael – Farael Twofoot Shastanis Althreduin – Shasta of the River Kuruharan -Kuru Shrewthwacker Day5 begins... Three against six. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 12-08-2007 at 03:03 PM.