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Old 12-09-2007, 03:17 AM   #554
Brinniel
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Ugh, I really don't like how quiet it's been here. I needed to take a better look at Fea, so I did. Here's some highlights:

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Originally Posted by Fea
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Originally Posted by The Might
Hmmm...I'm curious to see what will happen, so I'll go ahead and do it:

++ The Might

for being so out of the ordinary.
What!?!??!

Okay, my immediate thoughts about this are:

I remember, I think, voting for myself when I was a wolf. Bluffing, as it were. Being suicidal as a way to throw people off. "No wolf would sacrifice herself!" If my memory is false, I know a true memory was me saying "I'm a wolf. Lynch me." and being truthful in that statement.

In any case, it was a bluff tactic.

Next thought: Voting for yourself is a ballsy thing to do in terms of personal education and education for the group.

What happens is, whether or not you live, the village is handed the perfect setup to study the bandwagon approach. It's REALLY easy for any wolf (or any innocent) to say "He's obviously a bluffing wolf and even if he's not, his insanity is dangerous to the village!" and start the voting.

From there, everybody can see who says and does what. Voting for yourself/declaring yourself as something is an excellent way (I've used it in the past) of gaging what's going on.

My hat's off to you, The Might, for taking initiative and giving the village some controversy to work with.

Here's how I'm going to react to The Might's suicide vote:

I'm going to ask people to make public what they think about it. Tell us how you feel about such a thing occurring. What's your opinion of day one suicide votes?

I happen to think he's innocent and going for the "Let's see whether or not people take advantage so we can study it later" approach. Only I'm stupid enough to do something like actually be guilty and admit it day one. I think.
Some thoughts: If she and Might are wolves, this would be a very strategic move. Write down some possibilities why he voted for himself, ask everyone else for input on the matter, then conclude he's probably innocent...but still look uncertain.

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Originally Posted by Fea
Thing is, I really don't think morm would kill Valier. It makes a lot more sense that the wolves are trying to frame him. I know he'd sacrifice himself for a cause (he's done it before), but it just seems so outright stupid for a morm-wolf to kill a villager in the night who seemed to have dreamt about him. Except that it's such a transparent set up that I can't help but think maybe the wolves aren't really trying to frame him, they're just trying to make it look like they are?

In any case, I'm leaning toward morm's innocence. I just don't think he'd have killed Val, especially if she'd dreamt of him. It's just too self-incriminating.
I think it's most likely that the wolves were split between accusing morm and thinking he's innocent. So the fact that Fea was right about him doesn't mean anything.

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Originally Posted by Fea
Thinlómien - helpful, nice, happy, etcetera. My question about Lommy: when you jumped in to post that Valier's death looks like morm's guilt, did you believe it, or were you just being the first one to publicly admit to the possibility?

Legate of Amon Lanc - no particular feelings of interest.

Aganzir - furry? I don't know. I don't like his accusation of Lommy and I feel like I missed something between Ag and Legate, because 'that's definitely not how it works at us'... It's the 'at us.' Is it just a grammar slip? The meaning of the sentence is lost on me.

Meneltarmacil - Eh.

Volo - I had suspicions last night, but I forgot them before this morning. At some point I'll go back and try to figure out what it was that worried me about Volo.

Macalaure - shrug.

The Might - I think the suicide vote points to TM's innocence. I haven't changed my mind.

Mormegil - innocent. Or I'll be forced to lynch him day one every game in our future for so completely pulling one over on me.

Brinniel - systematic. I feel like if I could take notes the same way she does, I'd get higher than a C in my Neoclassical/Romantic English Lit class this term... No particular feelings. I'd like to keep her around, even if just because she simplifies my life by taking useful notes.

Satansaloser2005 - shrug

Farael – shrug

A Little Green - definitely new. No denying the "what? I'm so confused, please pity me" is over-doing it a bit. A lot. I have to admit, she's a likely vote for me today.

Kath – I know I should be terrified of you, but I'm not. Why? What are you doing differently? What am I doing differently? There's something wrong here! Just to be clear: I feel like I should be suspicious because I'm always suspicious of Kath just like (and because of the same game) how I'm suspicious all the time of morm. Just to be very clear: I really have no leanings on Kath. I'd like to see more posts from her, though.

Shastanis Althreduin – Is it bad that I don't even remember seeing any posts by Shasta?

Kuruharan - On an existential level, Kuru, where are you? I miss you. Come back soon. I don't know what to do when I'm not being thwacked. Oh, for the village: I want to see a lot more length out of Kuru in the next few days.
Thoughts: She seems very vague with a lot of her analysis...not sure what to think about that. If she happens to be a wolf, I'm think one of the people (aside from Green) she didn't simply shrug at may also be a wolf.

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Originally Posted by Fea
++GREEN

Because I have to leave and won't be back before deadline.

Because the person I voted for yesterday has since stopped looking worrisome to me.

Because of all the players I could choose, especially four hours before deadline, Green is the one who seems both wolfish-and-confusing.

She fits into both of my preferences for who to vote for: her actions make me think she's guilty ("What? Me? How could I be guilty, I barely even know who mormegil is!") and other people seem to agree with my instincts on this one (which means it's not necessarily me just making things up).
Okay, I won't take into account the fact she said she had to leave...because if you have to leave, that can't be helped. But still, I don't find it unlikely that a Fea wolf wouldn't hesitate to vote for a fellow wolf. Since she was the first to vote Green that vote was very safe.

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Originally Posted by Fea
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Originally Posted by Farael
For the time being, I still think Sally is just awfully suspicious and that we should lynch her
I can't help but agree. A great deal because of this post:

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Originally Posted by Sally
Perhaps we shall see my friend, perhaps we shall see.

No totally kidding. I just meant that no matter WHO got lynched, regardless of whether it was me or someone else, lynching more than one person was a bad plan. Sorry for the confusion. Or am I?
Really, it strikes me as odd that an innocent this far into the game would intentionally create chaos like this.
Jumping on the bandwagon with Farael here...

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Originally Posted by Fea
++Sally

I feel like the regression back into 'normalcy' was more like a flinch. I still don't know what to think of her earlier "Am I a wolf? Am I not a wolf? Lalala." It's gutsy/stupid for a wolf and irresponsible/stupid for an innocent. Either way, not the sort of likely action I'm comfortable keeping around. I wish I had time to stick around and analyze/watch/etcetera. But I'm not really sure of my suspicions right now. I'm comfortable lynching Sal and hoping she's lupine. Even if she's not, I'd say the village is probably better off without the chaos (I know, this coming from me!).
Was the second to vote for Sally. A fairly safe vote, but still keep a double lynch in the running (though there was probably no way to avoid that at the time).

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Originally Posted by Fea
The Might, what's wrong with you?! (I know it's been said already. I just kind of needed to get that off my chest, since it was my reaction to yesterday and this is my first chance to say it.)
If they're both wolves, this little comment could be made to throw us off. After all, as wolves they would've had plenty of time to talk during the Night.

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Originally Posted by Fea
++Menel

I refuse to see another multiple lynch if I can help it. Though I'd really rather vote for TM. I have no desire to be held responsible for upping other-party vote counts ten minutes before deadline.
At this point of voting, Menel was in the lead by two and majority of people who hadn't voted said they were going to vote for him. So a double lynch wasn't looking likely. Seems more like an excuse to make a safe vote.
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