What a fascinating discussion of my favourite tale and, for me, the most compelling of JRRT's characters. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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However I must hold Nienor somewhat responsible for the deaths of Brandir and Turin as well.
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Of course, if she hadn't disobeyed here mother's (sensible) request and stayed in Menegroth instead, she would never have encountered Glaurung, been bewitched by him or met her brother in her amnesiac state.
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Like her brother Nienor doesn't *think* but acts on the impulse and passion of the moment.
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Quite.
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I can't help feeling that if Mr. Bilbo Baggins could manage to keep his head and not put credence in a dragon's words so could Turin Turambar.
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As far as I am concerned, the only department in which Smaug outmatched Glaurung was the wing department. Had Smaug had anything like Glaurung's ability to transfix and deceive, let alone his sheer malevolence, I really don't think Bilbo would have made it out of that chamber in one piece.
[ May 14, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]