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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc
Wait, wait. I am kinda confused. I thought that the GW can scry on people still, all the time, and if he already has three Gifteds, he still can scry, only he does not turn the innocents he scries into Gifteds, but if he scries upon a Wolf, he turns him back.
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That is partially correct. We were discussing (or at least I was) how to handle scrying/cursing after both teams have filled their limits, should we choose to apply limits. If the GW continues to scry with out making gifteds, they act as another seer, but able to change wolves. Volo's suggestion was that instead of being yet another seer, the GW have the option to protect the gifted from cursing.
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So I don't see why Volo is suggesting what he is suggesting, as the GW is already doing this thing by which he can save people who already are wolves (and if he scries upon a person who becomes a wolf the very same night, he un-curses him, so in fact, it's the same as if he Protected him, technically).
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If the GW and the EW choose the same person to scry/curse on the same night, that person dies, so they really aren't protected. If the GW scries a wolf, then the wolf becomes an Innocent. If the EW curses a gifted, that person becomes an Innocent. Volo, as I was understanding it, was suggesting the GW be able to protect people who are already gifted from being cursed by the EW, and thus losing their gifted status.
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And I don't see why Roa is opposing it, as the GW already does this thing, as I just wrote. Or am I totally confused and misunderstood the rules, the posts, or everything?
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I think you misunderstand what we were talking about. As I said above, this isn't the scrying ability- it's something else entirely. If the GW could protect all the gifted from being cursed, it stops the EW from being able to remove gifteds in the same way the GW could remove wolves. I was saying that if you give such a power to the GW then it should also be given to the EW, but they should only be able to protect one of their team members a night.
However, either way, the protected person is a goner. If the EW chooses to curse someone, only to find out that s/he can't, then it'd be obvious that that person is gifted. If the GW tries to scry someone and can't, then it becomes obvious that that that person is a wolf. So really all it would do is maybe give either a gifted or a wolf one more day on that team.