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Nogrod · 02-28-2008, 09:35 AM

(early votes)
Sally -> Boro
Gwath -> Boro 2

(-46) Menel -> Mac (Boro 2, Mac 1)
(-27) Boro -> Gwath (Boro 2, Mac 1, Gwath 1)

(-9) Greenie -> Gwath (Boro 2, Gwath 2, Mac 1)

(-6) Rikae -> Gwath (Gwath 3, Boro 2, Mac 1)

(-4) Mith -> Gwath (Gwath 4, Boro 2, Mac 1)

(-3) McCaber -> Gwath (Gwath 5, Boro 2, Mac 1)

(-2) Dury -> McCaber (Gwath 5, Boro 2, Mac 1, McCaber 1)
(-2) Nogrod -> McCaber (Gwath 5, Boro 2, Mac 1, McCaber 2)
(-2) Volo -> Ka (trying to retract to Gwath) (Gwath 5, Boro 2, Mac 1, McCaber 2, The Ka 1)

(-1) Lommy -> McCaber (Gwath 5, Boro 2, Mac 1, McCaber 3, The Ka 1)

(00) Mac -> Gwath (Gwath 6, Boro 2, Mac 1, McCaber 3, The Ka 1)

+ on overtime
The Ka -> McCaber

Did not vote: Nerwen

First notice: everyone who voted for Gwath was voting safe in a way that he had been suspected widely from quite early on the Day so anyone could just refer to that general suspiciousness of him.

Looking at the wagon I'd say Boro's starting vote was pretty safe as there had been a lot of discussion and suspicion on Gwath already at that point.

Greenie's vote doesn't look too good because she had first defended him lightly earlier into the Day but then turned around and only referred to suspicons others had made when she needed to vote.

Rikae agreed that he might be a bit too easy pick but still went for him stating that she sticks with her top suspect. What makes me uneasy about this is the logical and calculated feel I get from it. Innocents are unsure and insecure about their votes as it's bad for them if they get it wrong but the wolves can be cool and principled when they know everything is going their way...

Mith could already be quite sure Gwath was a goner - so was that the reason why she had to underline the "let's not lynch Boro" -thing so much as she actually had no specific reason to vote for Gwath but didn't want to look like someone who votes randomly at anyone who's not a fellow wolf? She even made that Boro remark one extra time after she had already voted...

McCaber I can see as voting to save himself... even if he denied that toDay which kind of makes me totally confused about him.

Mac's vote I don't get. The situation was over and everything was clear but still he says he would have rather voted for Lommy... So why did he vote for Gwath after saying himself he would like to give him at least one more Day?

It was such a nice wagon - seven people eg. about half of the Bombadil's house in the same wagon while many people said it wasn't looking like a good idea. Something fishy and a very good place for a wolf to hide in. The question remains who is it / are they? I need to give it a thought - and to finally turn towards toDay.

EDIT: X'd with a lot...

02-28-2008, 09:35 AM	#205
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	The Gwathwagon (early votes) Sally -> Boro Gwath -> Boro 2 (-46) Menel -> Mac (Boro 2, Mac 1) (-27) Boro -> Gwath (Boro 2, Mac 1, Gwath 1) (-9) Greenie -> Gwath (Boro 2, Gwath 2, Mac 1) (-6) Rikae -> Gwath (Gwath 3, Boro 2, Mac 1) (-4) Mith -> Gwath (Gwath 4, Boro 2, Mac 1) (-3) McCaber -> Gwath (Gwath 5, Boro 2, Mac 1) (-2) Dury -> McCaber (Gwath 5, Boro 2, Mac 1, McCaber 1) (-2) Nogrod -> McCaber (Gwath 5, Boro 2, Mac 1, McCaber 2) (-2) Volo -> Ka (trying to retract to Gwath) (Gwath 5, Boro 2, Mac 1, McCaber 2, The Ka 1) (-1) Lommy -> McCaber (Gwath 5, Boro 2, Mac 1, McCaber 3, The Ka 1) (00) Mac -> Gwath (Gwath 6, Boro 2, Mac 1, McCaber 3, The Ka 1) + on overtime The Ka -> McCaber Did not vote: Nerwen First notice: everyone who voted for Gwath was voting safe in a way that he had been suspected widely from quite early on the Day so anyone could just refer to that general suspiciousness of him. Looking at the wagon I'd say Boro's starting vote was pretty safe as there had been a lot of discussion and suspicion on Gwath already at that point. Greenie's vote doesn't look too good because she had first defended him lightly earlier into the Day but then turned around and only referred to suspicons others had made when she needed to vote. Rikae agreed that he might be a bit too easy pick but still went for him stating that she sticks with her top suspect. What makes me uneasy about this is the logical and calculated feel I get from it. Innocents are unsure and insecure about their votes as it's bad for them if they get it wrong but the wolves can be cool and principled when they know everything is going their way... Mith could already be quite sure Gwath was a goner - so was that the reason why she had to underline the "let's not lynch Boro" -thing so much as she actually had no specific reason to vote for Gwath but didn't want to look like someone who votes randomly at anyone who's not a fellow wolf? She even made that Boro remark one extra time after she had already voted... McCaber I can see as voting to save himself... even if he denied that toDay which kind of makes me totally confused about him. Mac's vote I don't get. The situation was over and everything was clear but still he says he would have rather voted for Lommy... So why did he vote for Gwath after saying himself he would like to give him at least one more Day? It was such a nice wagon - seven people eg. about half of the Bombadil's house in the same wagon while many people said it wasn't looking like a good idea. Something fishy and a very good place for a wolf to hide in. The question remains who is it / are they? I need to give it a thought - and to finally turn towards toDay. EDIT: X'd with a lot... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...