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HerenIstarion · 07-22-2003, 10:35 AM

Well put, Imladris and Guinevere.

*H-I bows

And not to let this last post stand as mere statement of approval (e.g expression of personal feelings), I should remind you of Prof Ransom of C.S.Lewis (by assumption, both JRRT and CSL shared some believes). I refer to the second book of his space trilogy, when Ransom realizes that there is no other way but to fight the tempter (I can not give you the direct quote right away, add up one who remembers). There is a same principle (I believe) at work here. One can not fight back evil using the formula "I will resist evil unless". There is no place for such an "unless" with Tolkien (except that means of fighting have to be lawful - i.e. one can not use ring, enemy's weapon, but one can slay orks, as automata in Enemy's service, and one can slay in defence against assail)

07-22-2003, 10:35 AM	#79
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Well put, Imladris and Guinevere. *H-I bows And not to let this last post stand as mere statement of approval (e.g expression of personal feelings), I should remind you of Prof Ransom of C.S.Lewis (by assumption, both JRRT and CSL shared some believes). I refer to the second book of his space trilogy, when Ransom realizes that there is no other way but to fight the tempter (I can not give you the direct quote right away, add up one who remembers). There is a same principle (I believe) at work here. One can not fight back evil using the formula "I will resist evil unless". There is no place for such an "unless" with Tolkien (except that means of fighting have to be lawful - i.e. one can not use ring, enemy's weapon, but one can slay orks, as automata in Enemy's service, and one can slay in defence against assail) __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!