[Nogrod]

Okay. I had to do this because I was suspecting Dury a lot and wished to see whether it was just that she kept on suspecting me with reasons I thought were sham or was there anything "real" behind my suspicions.

So here then is my

Durylysis (eg. comments and points with some quotes)


On Day1

Originally Posted by #16

So the cobblers can help lynch a wolf, and the wolves can always kill a cobbler. There's only two wolves and there's a seer.

This should be an interesting show! I only wish there were more risks involved for the cobbler assassin...or any risks at all for that matter!

Anyway, let's try not to lynch our cobbler assassin or seer today.

I don't think a wolf would naturally make the middle sentence (about wishing more risks) but the last one is just a classic wolf-comment early in the game.

In #66 she has good points about false reveals and continues:

I really am finding it hard to even toss out random suspicions atm. I'm always for lynching the phantom, though. I say we give Nogrod a little time.

Sudden thought: I bet Mith makes a great cobbler.

Nicely right with Mith even if she had no way of knowing it (unless she's a cobbler as well and they know each other and she decided to be quite a bold one... eg. I don't think so)!

She protest the Kit-lynch saying it only gives us one more day to play and says that's silly. But she doesn't say why not take one more day or why is it silly. She suspects Gwath (seer) for "a good bit of back-and-forth-ing" and Lalaith (innocent) as her ""fishy" comment feels like an easy stir up of things". Also Lommy feels off to her. Then she speculates on wolf-tactics:

Originally Posted by #109

the wolves will want to be a good bit more careful about killing off their cobblers in this game, with so many of them and only two wolves.

Protests somewhat strongly Gwath's vote for Kitanna being bad policy.

Votes Gwath because she doesn't like his attitude. Notes jokingly she's bandwaggoning (Greenie had voted Gwath just before her).


On Day2

Now Dury you have to help me out with this as I just can't get it.

Originally Posted by #169

But, as Nerwen pointed out, it's in the cobblers' interest to avoid getting one of their wolves lynched (and their fellow cobblers, though that's secondary in importance). And as a wolf, I might well have considered *going with the flow* on that one, myself, even though it goes against my WW 'philosophy' (lolz, I know). There has never been a cleaner appearing lynch and never could be. I'm really going to have to try to not focus on the people who neatly went along with the Kitanna lynch.

I found myself disagreeing with Nogrod on several things already, which makes me feel we are on different sides...in this case meaning he is of an evil sort.

Now what I say in that quote is that there should be baddies in the Kitanna bandwaggon. Then Dury goes on "disagreeing" by saying that that were she a wolf she would have considered "going with the flow" eg. voting Kit. And then she says: "I'm really going to have to try to not focus on the people who neatly went along with the Kitanna lynch"???

And the result of all that is that she is disagreeing with me on "several things" (which they might be as with the main point we agree here?) and that makes me evil... Hmm...

I'm also a bit worried about of what she says the next:

Originally Posted by #169

As for the Lalaith kill, she was set on phantom and interested in Gwath. I doubt she was killed as a potential seer because she suspected a wolf, but her suspicion of phantom and her jump on Gwath were both more purposeful than most of the typical musing going on. Anyway, as Eonwe pointed out, she may have just seemed un-cobblerish to the wolves. And as Fea pointed out, she may have been a *maybe the seer* pick without anything behind it.

I mean the way she tries to downplay the possibility of Lalaith's death having to do with tp, even going as long as making this last: "as Fea pointed out, she may have been a *maybe the seer* pick without anything behind it". That I find pretty incredible but what wouldn't a fellow wolf - or a cobbler indeed - do if there were only two of them?

She ends the post as confusedly as the post had been all the time by saying that I made a case against Groin

for show only. And yes, he voted for Groin. I had to go back and look, I couldn't remember at all who he voted for.

On #201 she suddenly becomes sharper and brighter with comments against Fea's poor / hasty judgements like:

I think it's very silly to assume that the cobbler assassin or the seer have done or are going to choose a specific person, I don't care who.
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The entire village didn't vote for Kitanna. Greenie and I voted for Gwath, Brinniel and Eonwe voted for Greenie, Lommy voted for Nogrod, Nogrod for Groin, and phantom for Lalaith. The scattered voting at the very end is of concern, but everyone's too busy still arguing about yesterDay and is distracted by Form and of course ever distracted by phantom.

Also when Brinn pressed the point that the wolves wouldn't like to vote Kitanna she goes:

To gain the village's trust. To do something people wouldn't expect a wolf to do. Their goal is more to survive than just to mindlessly slaughter as quickly as possible! To leave a clean vote. To continue a debate that will distract the village...

Which is good thinking - even if I do think at least some baddies might not have resisted voting Kit with the wagon on Day1...

Interestingly she says Mith's "moves" have made her practically a known innocent!!!

Originally Posted by #207

Both Form and Gwath seem like they're trying to make enemies.

On #230 she doesn't like Kath's attitude and feels sorry for me being misunderstood. Thinks she agrees with some of my points on tp and Fea but still suspects me. Then she makes a list:

My baddie list:

Nogrod
Kath
phantom
Fea
Gwath
Nerwen

I feel good about Shasta, Eonwe, Lommy, and Greenie. I feel pretty good about Nilp and Mith. Not sure about Brinn. Did I miss anyone? (Other than Groin.)

And ends up with me and tp being the baddies and of us two me even if I had made good points on tp they were made in a wrong fashion and thence I was the more suspicious.

Then she votes:

Originally Posted by #233

Nogrod because he feels the worst. My brain tells me nasty things about others, but the most *feeling* is involved with him.

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Well did I get enlightened?

Nope.

But it didn't lessen my suspicions a lot either...


EDIT: X'd with Brinn and tp