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Old 09-15-2008, 01:30 PM   #291
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The giga-voting-post for hardcore fans...

The times are GMT meaning the deadline is 17.00. The underlined/bolded are the persons whose posts are cited below them...

I've tried to collect a point or two people have made of their voting choices to give you a view of what they were doing. There's also a tally of that moment (after one's vote) so you can see the situation where the vote was made. Surely in the end there were a host of cross-votes. I fex. waited to the last moment to see Mac's vote on Gwath and acted accordingly then. And some people actually marked their X'votings.

So here we go then...

Mith

(about 19 hours before the DL)
Quote:
I find Gwathagor's response, to my response on his "correct me if I am wrong" re Captain of Despair baffling. How that pointing out that COD isn't an unsphisticated thinker makes me a wolf is beyond me.

Especially since he just agreed with Nogrod that it was unlikely that a COD voter were a wolf.

Sorry got to go but will vote

++Gwathagor
Gwath1


Boro

(14.09 GMT)
Quote:
Hmm...Lal might be creeping back up in my suspicions too. She's been saying some really strange stuff today (constantly saying she's going to be wolf-meat tonight?) Lal is an experienced wolf and I can't pin her behaviour as a wolf. She is making her activity known today, drawing attention to herself, so she could be the cobbler, just out to confuse us and try to turn the discussion away from the people she thinks are wolves.
(14.28)
Quote:
++Lalwende

There's something evil behind her intentions today, I don't know if she's feeling the pressure, or what it is, but it doesn't look right.
Gwath1, Lalwendė1


Fėa

(14.43)
Quote:
Because I know what I intuitively think you are, but that doesn't mean I'm going to apologize for any attempt I make on your life. 1) it's a game, and it's understood that it's a game. 2) why draw attention to yourself with a conspicuous display of confidence? 3) I'm not going to apologize for voting for you, because I'm highly likely to do it again.

I have to leave for work in a few minutes, and won't be back. That means a vote. And right now I'm tied between Shasta and Boro, for reasons that rationality don't yet support, but which I couldn't forgive myself for not acting on.
(15.15)
Quote:
++Boromir

(who could have seen that coming?)
Gwath1, Lalwendė1, Boro1


Isabellkya

(8.46)
Quote:
I don't know if I would vote for Nog, but I definately have my eye on him.
(the outcome of her analysis)

(15.37)
Quote:
Voting time..

++Nogrod
Gwath1, Lalwendė1, Boro1, Nogrod1


Gwath


(15.55)
Quote:
Since, at this point, there's no question in my mind who I am going to vote for, I may as well do it now.

++Nogrod

His arguments against me have, from the start, been forced, illogical, and exaggerative. I find him highly suspicious.
Gwath1, Lalwendė1, Boro1, Nogrod2


McCaber

(16.07)
Quote:
Yeah, I really don't like the way sally posted yesterDay, what with the "suspicion" of the Captain in quite a lot of posts but her vote trying to lead away from his death. (Old news, I know, but I just woke up. Give me a break.)
(16.17)
Quote:
Voting time!

++sally

for reasons already explained.
Gwath1, Lalwendė1, Boro1, Nogrod2, Sally1


Rikae

(14.37)
Quote:
Right now, my strongest feeling is that I don't like the way Brinn handles McCaber - and, furthermore, I don't like the way McCaber posts. I get the distinct impression she is trying to cover her bases where he's concerned (don't look like you're ignoring the possibility he's a wolf, but don't make it look like he actually is, either), while he is just poking his head in at the fringes of things, saying nothing that will elicit a response, and hoping no one notices him. Because Brinn is the more vocal of the two, I'm leaning toward voting for McCaber.
(16.02)
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As it stands, this allegation of "chumminess" looks suspiciously vague and makes me uneasier about both Brinn and Nilp (especially Nilp, because he repeated Brinn's wording without adding to it, and while claiming to suspect her).
(16.28)
Quote:
Nilp or McCaber... McCaber or Nilp... hmm....

++McCaber
Gwath1, Lalwendė1, Boro1, Nogrod2, Sally1, McCaber1


Nilp


(16.32)
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Gwath is rather twisty. Hehe. Meaning he seems to start with the premise that Nogrod is indeed a Wolf:
Quote:
However, I'm inclined to be more wary of any lists of "suspects" that wolves produce, no matter what point in the game they occur. (Gwath 168)

and then kinda goes on from there (198). Hey, I hate DAY 1s, too, man, but at least I listen to DAY 1 theories. Would you rather have us pulling names out of our hats? You vote for who you think the most suspicious is, no matter how you reach that conclusion. (Well, an innocent does. So far as I know . . . )

But your defence was simply . . . *shakes head* All this talking about what you might do if you were one or other, what you think he might think of what you're doing, etc. (which you did twice--once yesterDAY and this now toDAY) and rehashing DAY 1 discussion (I thought you hated DAY 1s, why bring them here in DAY 2?) is just *shakes head some more*.
(16.51)
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Hmm, and yes, voting for Brinniel does nothing. Suspect #2, however, already has a vote.

Ergo:

++Gwathagor
Gwath2, Lalwendė1, Boro1, Nogrod2, Sally1, McCaber1


Sally

(16.53)
Quote:
I read the thread last night and noted that Noggie's been on Gwath like Captain Jack on a TARDIS. I still don't see Gwath's big fault, he looks innocent to me, and it makes me think Nog is grasping at straws. Besides, why kill Gwath? It's the same reason I didn't vote for Captain yesterDay; not enough information from him (although I turned out to be right, dang it! heh) that I felt comfortable killing him. Maybe I'll agree with the case against Gwath at some point, but right now it feels too forced, and the post I quoted doesn't help things.

I'm sorry I couldn't explain more, but I don't want to completely spam you people like ten minutes before DL, so I'll just vote.

++Noggie
Gwath2, Lalwendė1, Boro1, Nogrod3, Sally1, McCaber1


Lalwendė

(~7½ hours before dl)
Quote:
So I'm watching these today: McCaber, Isabellkya, Nerwen, Fea.....with Nilp most likely to be drawn out of my bag for a vote if no obvious wolves turn up.
(14.52)
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I'm still fishy about McCaber. After what Nerwen said, and now after what you've just said (= Rikae saying “I don't like the way McCaber posts.”), I have to admit he's looking shady.
(16.38)
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What about those who are being too careful too? To be honest, I'd worry about those more than I'd worry about Gwath and Nogrod.
(16.57)
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Out of my 3 candidates, I'm taking a punt on the idea of a wolf-on-wolf vote early yesterday, so I'm voting:

++McCaber
Gwath2, Lalwendė1, Boro1, Nogrod3, Sally1, McCaber2


Brinniel

(12 hours before DL)
Quote:
Nogrod: I don't really like the reasoning behind his suspicions. As I mentioned yesterDay, I think was reading too much into Gwath's post. He's definitely someone I need to take a closer look at tomorrow.

satansaloser2005: I agree that her vote was definitely the most suspicious of Day 1. But it isn't just the vote...I agree with Boromir; her behaviour feels a bit furry to me. She's another that I want to take a closer look at tomorrow.
(16.55)
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Best I stick with voting my original top two suspects. So will it be Nogrod or Sally?
(16.59)
Quote:
++Sally

Explanation coming...
(17.00)
Quote:
I was going to vote Nogrod, but this bandwagon against him worries me that I might be horribly wrong. Sally...her voting has been rather suspicious...
Gwath2, Lalwendė1, Boro1, Nogrod3, Sally2, McCaber2


Macalaure


(16.23)
Quote:
Worried about:
Boro(+1) - still don't like his behavior at the end of last day and has said a few worrying things today.
Brinn

Slightly worried about:
Fea(-1) - still don't know what to do with her, but I somehow feel a Feawolf would act differently.
Gwath(-1) - even though some seem to think differently, I think his posts today have looked more innocent than guilty.
Sally(-1) - her vote looks bad, but she hasn't done anything today to make me more suspicious.
(16.49)
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Since I wouldn't like to see Nogrod go now, I think I'll vote for one of the given candidates (unless a secure Brinn-waggon suddenly appears). I'm leaning towards voting for Boro, with Sally and Gwath as possible second choices.
(16.57)
Quote:
If I can't get Boro, I'd prefer Gwath over Sally.
(16.59)
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++Gwathagor

(edit: crossed with Brinn... great...)
Gwath3, Lalwendė1, Boro1, Nogrod3, Sally2, McCaber2


Nerwen

(11.39)
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lal
Boro cannot be a wolf or he'd have jumped onto one of those bandwagons to save CoD and not randomly voted for moi. He gave no reason to be umming and ahhing and waiting til the end for nefarious reasons, he clearly had no clue.
Or he was waiting to see who else (other than CoD) would get the most votes. Or he's the cobbler. I should have thought both of these possibilities were fairly obvious.
(17.00)
Quote:
Running out of time...

++Boro.
Gwath3, Lalwendė1, Boro2, Nogrod3, Sally2, McCaber2


Nogrod

(17.00)
Quote:
++ Gwath
Gwath4, Lalwendė1, Boro2, Nogrod3, Sally2, McCaber2


I'll take a short break and come back with hopefully some ideas drawn from this mammouth - and of the latest posting as well (after I read it, that is).

EDIT: corrected quotes & boldings
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