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Old 11-17-2008, 11:08 PM   #1037
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mormegil....

I just read all of your posts for today. I wrote down every single reason you've given for suspecting Boro and I.

Post #856-
1) We're "trusting" of each other.
2) I'm acting too goofy sometimes.

Post #862-
1) We're working together.

Post #882-
1) We're acting "buddy-buddy".

Post #954-
1) He's too sure of himself.
2) We're working together.
3) We're using ploys.

So if we combine those points that are simply repeated, we are left with this-
1) We're working together.
2) Boro seems confident.
3) Phantom is goofy sometimes.
4) We use ploys.

Not terribly convincing stuff, morm. Point number three is just a plain weird reason for suspicion. It's like suspecting Nog for occasionally making long posts.

Point number four is also plain weird, seeing as ploys have been used by me and others in every WW game I've ever been in.

Point two is weird as well, as we've all seen Boro be hard-headed before, as well as the fact that surety of guilt and innocence is just as much a Seer flag as a Werewolf flag.

So we're left only with point number one, the fact that Boro and I are working together.

I've explained the reasoning for this several times, and you have yet to respond to any of it. Not that there is any way to respond other than saying, "Yes Phantom, that's true." But just because I'm a patient chap, here are some quotes that I've made in answer to that point.
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Originally Posted by me
So yeah... I pretty much trust you at this point.

1) The McCaber kill doesn't match you.

2) You tried to do the I'm-the-Seer ploy, just like me.

3) You did the set-up-kill ploy, just like me.

4) The Seer has almost certainly checked us by now.
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Originally Posted by me
It's nothing we haven't done before.

As a matter of fact, I can recall a game (I think it was another of Fea's) where Boro and I reached a complete understanding on the very first day.

Sorry, but that's just how we roll.
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Originally Posted by me
Yes, the reason why I'm really trusting him at this point is that he appears to have caught onto my ploys and not attempted to ruin them, while at the same time running similar ploys of his own.
Quote:
Originally Posted by me
Boro and I are displaying trust for each other and are attempting to work together. This is where all of the suspicion stems from.

Fact: We are both likely to be correct given the simple odds to begin this village.

Fact: We are extremely familiar with each other, and I at least have shown a great ability to read him in the past, pegging him quite often on Day 1 as Ordo or Wolf.

Fact: The ploys that we were doing can be seen quite clearly in hindsight and their workings explained logically.
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Originally Posted by me
And the reason we discussed the ploy with each other was simply to see if we were on the same page. Building trust! You people wonder why we're trusting each other? Um, maybe because we're doing things to build trust.
There, morm. That clear enough for you, or do I need to repeat everything again?

Every one of your reasons for suspicion has been taken care of.

If you are innocent in this village, it is now up to you to read and reread and think about what has been said, and see if you can still logically support your claim.
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