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Old 11-21-2008, 03:37 PM   #86
Aganzir
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Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard View Post
Wouldn't this be a bad thing? There is an old (and I do mean oold) saying in my country: "Pride has hurt, starved, and killed than all the other injustices in the world combined." This remark certainly fits Feanor and his sons, their petty pride causing the death of many a good man, elf, and dwarf alike.
No, to me pride has always been the golden mean between conceit and humility. Fëanor and his sons took it maybe a bit too far, but it's that unwillingness to repent which makes them so irresistible (especially Curufin, but I like Maglor, too).
And this is not to say I should like all sorts of pride - I agree there are kinds that are quite dangerous by themselves.

++ Thorin

I find dragons annoying and boring. Reading too much fantasy should maybe be blamed for that, although I admit Tolkien's dragons have a bit more edge than average to them. However, when it's between a dwarf and a dragon, the dwarf will get my vote.

Besides I like Thorin. He's one of those characters who are easy to sympathize with although they are not flawless. Every time I've read The Hobbit I've sided with him when he threw Bilbo out. It was Thorin who had been offended so Bilbo should have no reason to complain, rather be just happy it didn't end up worse.

edit: xed with Tuor (hey Curufin's not a bad guy! ) and Legz (you are such a racist! )
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