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Originally Posted by Andsigil
Granted about the venue. But, do we really care about their viewpoint? I don't think Tolkien had strange concepts like moral relativism in mind when he created this universe. Oh, well. I, too, would be happy to discuss this in another thread.
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I've a feeling this topic is a can of worms (never quite understood that expression though, what's so bad about a can of worms? You open it and there are worms inside, so what? I can think of much worse can-contents) but here's a fairly recent thread where we discussed these issues:
Are Orcs That Bad?
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Originally Posted by Lommy
What I like him the best, though, is that he's not afraid to show his emotions. He cries when he grieves, he rages when he's angry, smiles and laughs and sings when he's happy and admits it when he's afraid. I think that's bravery of the bravest sort.
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Okay, I'll give you that, he's not afraid to show his emotions. It's just that I don't really buy it. What's his motivation, his inner desires and struggles? Who
is Gimli? To me he is just a sideshow, just like Legolas; a character not crafted out well enough to care for. And Cute?
Edit: I suppose PJ felt the fellowship could use some comic relief, and I actually agree: you can't have nine stern and solemn walkers in a Hollywood blockbuster. From there, the step to use Gimli (and Pip and Merry of curse) seems rather natural, as he already is used for this purpose on occasion by Tolkien, if to a much lesser degree. Furthermore, in
The Hobbit, the Dwarwes are used almost exclusively as comic relief, or for plain comedy I should say. Okay, maybe that's an exageration but you get my point. Sure, the Gimli-jokes weren't always handled in the best way, but some gave me a chuckle too. All and all, I didn't mind movie Gimli at all.