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Originally Posted by The Might
Mmm, that quote from HoMe VIII is nice, but it does not prove that Gandalf ever went to Angmar.
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It indicates that the Weathertop was not the first occasion when Gandalf had to flee from the WK. It is not said that it had been in Angmar, though.
On the other hand, in the quote you have posted, this one:
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The North" thus includes all this great area: roughly West to East from the Gulf of Lune to Núrnen, and North and South from Carn Dûm to the southern bounds of ancient Gondor between it and Near Harad. Beyond Núrnen Gandalf had never gone.
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Carn Dûm is mentioned as a place where Gandalf had been. Carn Dûm is Angmar's capital (The men of Carn Dûm came on us at night, and we were worsted) and it is situated in northern Angmar. It seems that it was the WK who built Carn Dum around TA 1300, and after the defeat of Angmar in TA 1975 Carn Dum ceased to exist: either it was abandoned or destroyed. Thus visiting Carn-Dum was only possible while the WK ruled Angmar. Naturally, Gandalf went there is disguise, but it is likely that he was forced to flee.
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Originally Posted by The Might
Another possibility would be that Gandalf was present when Black Uruks from Mordor attacked Osgiliath in 2475 and where Boromir I resisted furiously being feared even by the Witch-king. Maybe Gandalf was there, perhaps in some guise, why not, and that is where he learned of the Witch-king, perhaps had to flee. Same would go as an explanation for why the WK also saw Gandalf as a strong foe.
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I don't think it possible that Gandalf, so tightly connected as he was with the North of Middle Earth and the Elves of Rivendell, had no interest in the evil land of Angmar and its sorcerer King. After all, in 1409 Rivendell had been besieged by Angmar! I don't believe Gandalf only learned about the WK after the nazgul's relocation to Minas Morgul.
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What I am trying to say is - of course your ideas are plausible, but so is that written above, there are no concrete things we learn about it, all is speculation.
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It is speculation, but based on some quotes.
