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Wormtongue was a fifth-columnist. Gandalf sided against him.
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Hmmm...the term fifth columnist is appropriate, I guess, as Saruman was rather fascist (he did share the love of overblown oratory with Mussolini and Hitler).
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But it would only be conjecture to say that Gandalf's pipeweed had any hallucinogenic qualities.
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But didin't Saruman tell Gandalf something to the effect that the Hobbit's weed had addled his wits? I think perhaps the Hobbits were closet hippies (the suburban kids with the long hair and Che Guevara posters driving about in their parent's Porsches), as in addition to pipeweed they were fond of 'shrooms.
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But would Gandalf have spilled the wine or taken the pearl?
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Not sure about that, but in the same song Burdon refers to the 'Hall of the Mountain King'. Very suspect if you ask me.
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Only in the gray days. When he went to Gandalf the White, he was quite well cleaned up.
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Well, hippies also bundled up their ideals, subversiveness and patchouli oil in well-worn steamer trunks and became well-heeled stock brokers and manufacturing reps. *shrugs*
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No argument there!
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Ummm...what were we talking about again?
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Hiking has more character than bumming rides. As does riding Shadowfax (the Rolls Royce of horses).
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John Lennon had a Rolls Royce.
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Gandalf used those pinecones as weapons. Perhaps molotov cocktails would be a better comparison?
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It was more an analogy to fighting evil, but your comparison is applicable, particularly at the '68 Democratic Convention in Chicago.
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But Gandalf ended the War of the Ring by fighting in it and winning.
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Make love, not war. But the counterculture protests of the '60's did do a lot for civil rights, the anti-war movement and women's lib. They were also cool places to meet chicks.
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I would venture that his disturbing and troublemaking had a slightly more noble purpose than, say, Woodstock.
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Woodstock had its elements of nobility. One just had to look under the mud.
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Wow, that was dreadful! And no, that would not be what anyone was listening to during the Summer of Love (or anyone should listen to presently). That doesn't rank up there with The Beatles, The Doors or even The Mothers of Invention.
Sorry for the digression. Back to tallying the votes!