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Old 04-17-2009, 03:14 PM   #487
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Originally Posted by A Little Green View Post
What you say makes sense in a way, but I think you are overlooking a very important thing. If the wolves all kept their bonus votes to themselves and Night-killed every innocent having bonus votes left, it wouldn't be right hard to identify them, would it?
Basically that's exactly what I'm after: I'm driving towards identifying them...

Are you for letting them to be concealed?

And so, with pressure enough they would need to discard their votes as not to be identified... and we would be in less a danger.

Simple, but soo hard to do in practise.

But we really have this Day to stay with a chance to win this. Three wolves and a Grima with ten votes each (+ Thuringwethil with ten extra-votes) will just spell the end of this game already toMorrow.


I'm amazed how few of you seem to get this. It's the end, finito, finé, konéc, kaputt, das ende, slut, loppu... if we leave three to five people with ten votes after toDay and lynch an innocent.

Maybe it's then what we deserve as a "village"...

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I'm still not sure I get this point. If we kill someone today chiefly based on that person having 10 bonus votes left, and that person turns out to be innocent, then in what sort of situation does that leave us?
Bad one. We need to get a baddie toDay.

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Granted, villagers might not agree about who is guilty, but if we have innocents with bonus votes we'll at least have a chance of opposing the wolves on a decisive Day. If we go about lynching innocents with 10 bonus votes left, we don't have even that.
Yeah. Sadly we don't seem to have the luxury of just pointing out the actual baddie like that and then go at her/him collectively. But the baddies both know who they are with and they can PM all the time to adjust their tactics when the situations change.

And even if we had an innocent or two with ten extra votes the wolves can just wait how they vote and then PM a strategy to counter it with their annihiliatory number of votes they have.

Sorry if I feel like pressuring this but I really think this is a question of winning or losing.

No, I don't propose anything like "let's systematically give away an X number of votes". No. The wolves could hide too easily under that kind of common decision.

Let's keep up the feeling that those not ready to use their votes will be the ones from whom we'll pick our lynch and see what happens.

It doesn't exactly help the plan if you all come back here to disagree with it with your underlying concerns about your personal safety.

Let's make the threat real. Only then will the wolves need to consider using their votes - and thence lose some of their power.

Otherwise they will outwit us in no time.

You may think it's no problem as it's only Day3. Sorry, this might be decided on Day4.

That spells toMorrow.
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