[Lariren Shadow]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

We keep shooting Hakon down, but in the last three games he has now hunted a wolf, protected the seer, and dreamt a werebear. He must be doing something right

Or its sheer dumb luck. I was a gifted or wolf(it alternated) for the first six games I played and was made, intentionally, an ordo in Boro's game. At this point I'm thinking its all luck. He doesn't have to be doing something right.

Also why are we all assuming he dreamed of Boro? Its an easy guess, but its not known. For all we know he dreamed of Fea or Sally(other good dream choices).

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

So Lari and sally are ill (I wasn't aware of that, explains the can't-be-bothered attitude), and wilwa has said she's busy and might even have to drop out;

I saw this after my other post and just wanted to say thank you.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

If everyone did that on Day1 (really tried to look for the baddies laying points on them) the Day1's would be real opportunities to lynch a wolf instead of easy hunker-down bandwagons that seem to hit gifteds and innocents more often than the wolves (because the wolves know who to vote). It's pretty frustrating to be the only one (well, one of the few) to actually try something on D1 and get load of X from that.

How do you suppose we do that? It's Day 1. What, we analyze people's greeting posts? "Oh Nog said Hi, but Sally said Hey THAT MEANS THEY ARE WOLVES". While I would love a productive Day 1, most of the time when a baddie is lynched on Day 1, unless a Seer reveals, it is luck. Looking for slip ups on Day 1, fine, but how often do wolves really leave traces that you can still till one of them is killed?

If we all followed your rules we may get a wolf, or in future games wolves would speak up more and become more intelligent. Then how would you vote?

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

I am still toying with the idea of voting for either Lari or sally, on the basis of yesterDay's Hakon vote. But Lari has not appeared toDay and sally has said little of consequence. So there is nothing more to go on toDay for either of them. Which may, I suppose, be a reason in itself to vote for one of them. But, if I do, which one?

First of all, I did appear right at the beginning of the Day(and I just saw your mention of that...maybe I'm not as better as I thought considering I've read that post five times already and just saw that). And went to bed before anything of consequence happened. Second, and this is a general second, why is everyone assuming(and by that I mean SPM, Inzil, Pitch, Greenie, and Nog), assuming that since Sally and I voted(and to be honest I didn't really notice Sally's vote when I voted) for the Seer that was are automatically evil? Did all of you see that he was the Seer? Because I didn't. I was annoyed.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Lari and Sally would have to have been in cahoots and try to save Spm their mate in crime for that scenario to be true... or then one of them (or both?) just wished to lay low and make a safe and probably nonsequiential lynch?

This is based on our votes? Really? First of all, why would the wolves do that anyway? There are four wolves right? Kill one there is still three. Saving one would be pointless from their perspective.

And fine, I'm going to be defensive but let's take a look at the "hey Sally and Lari both were not really there and voted for Hakon...THEY MUST BE EVIL" people(note post numbers included):

Starts with a slight mention by Pitch in 179, where he says we unnerve him, SPM adds in 186, Brinn is annoyed with us in the next post because we voted for him because we thought he was annoying, interesting to note, moves to Inzil, who really seems to jump on the whole "wow we really need to look at them" and I apparently look worst than Sally. Why is that Inzil? Because I voted second?

Nog, how did I got from, in post 203, a"non-interested ordos or people with RL hindrances"(quote also about Lottie) to evil?

And now I see Lottie jumping on.

Honestly I don't like how much Inzil pushes this whole thing. Actually, I don't like Nog either for that matter. Brinn's comment also caught my eye.