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Willow · 12-26-2002, 02:58 PM

From TTT, what Treebeard said:
"...And I might have said much the same, if you had been going the other way. Do not risk getting entangled in the woods of Laurelindorenan! That is what the Elves used to call it, but now they make the name shorter: Lothlorien they call it. Perhaps they are right: maybe it is fading, not growing. Land of the Valley of Singing Gold, that was it, once upon a time. Now it is the Dreamflower..."
So Laurelindorenan means Land of the Valley of Singing Gold, and Lothlorien means Dreamflower. Perhaps the names of Laurelindorenan and Laurelin the Tree of Valinor are similar because Laurelin means something to do with gold? If the languages became sundered and changed over the years, it would not be hard to get Lorien from Laurelin. But Treebeard seems to mean that Lothlorien is a shortened version of Laurelindorenan.

Aha! The index in the back of The Silmarillion defines Laurelin as "Song of Gold". Under Lorien, it says "The land ruled by Celeborn and Galadriel between the rivers Celebrant and Anduin. Probably the original name of this land was altered to the form of the Quenya name Lorien of the gardens of the Vala Irmo in Valinor. In Lothlorien the Sindarin word loth "flower" is prefixed."

In FOTR Legolas defines Lothlorien as Lorien of the Blossom. But isn't Lothlorien also known as the Golden Wood?

Maybe Laurelindorenan was derived from the Quenya, and Lothlorien/Lorien from the Sindarin since loth=flower in Sindarin?
I'll quit now. I'm confusing myself.

12-26-2002, 02:58 PM	#8
Willow Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16	From TTT, what Treebeard said: "...And I might have said much the same, if you had been going the other way. Do not risk getting entangled in the woods of Laurelindorenan! That is what the Elves used to call it, but now they make the name shorter: Lothlorien they call it. Perhaps they are right: maybe it is fading, not growing. Land of the Valley of Singing Gold, that was it, once upon a time. Now it is the Dreamflower..." So Laurelindorenan means Land of the Valley of Singing Gold, and Lothlorien means Dreamflower. Perhaps the names of Laurelindorenan and Laurelin the Tree of Valinor are similar because Laurelin means something to do with gold? If the languages became sundered and changed over the years, it would not be hard to get Lorien from Laurelin. But Treebeard seems to mean that Lothlorien is a shortened version of Laurelindorenan. Aha! The index in the back of The Silmarillion defines Laurelin as "Song of Gold". Under Lorien, it says "The land ruled by Celeborn and Galadriel between the rivers Celebrant and Anduin. Probably the original name of this land was altered to the form of the Quenya name Lorien of the gardens of the Vala Irmo in Valinor. In Lothlorien the Sindarin word loth "flower" is prefixed." In FOTR Legolas defines Lothlorien as Lorien of the Blossom. But isn't Lothlorien also known as the Golden Wood? Maybe Laurelindorenan was derived from the Quenya, and Lothlorien/Lorien from the Sindarin since loth=flower in Sindarin? I'll quit now. I'm confusing myself. __________________ Peruser of old threads.