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Old 10-08-2010, 12:07 PM   #167
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Shasta's dream?

Looking back at all that Shasta posted on D1 and considering possible hints from the seer, I think we have basically three options: Pitchwolf, Nerwinnocent and Innogate.

Of Legate he says in his first post (with a quote from Legate about him willing to stir discussion):
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Originally Posted by Shasta on #10
It's true, you are, and this very trait is what led me to think you evil when last we met. However, given that you've said that you're stirring up the rest of us here... I believe I'm okay with you, for now, Legate.
He refers to both Legate and Nerwen:
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Originally Posted by S on #21
I entirely agree with Nerwen on the subject of the cobbler, and disagree with Legate
Of Nerwen he says:
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Originally Posted by S on #33
[I'm] most okay with Nerwen (mostly for her views on the cobbler).
Well?

He thinks he's okay (for now!) with Leg; he has suspected him because of his style but if it's just stirring the discussion, then okay, for now.

Then he disagrees (on the subject of cobbler) with Legate - and agrees (on the subject of cobbler) with Nerwen.

Then he says he's most okay with Nerwen (mostly for her views on the cobbler).


What about Pitchie then? Well, this was it.
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Originally Posted by S on #10
In other news, I'm finding something slightly off about Pitch. He's only made one post thus far, but as I read it there were points at which I felt he was being awfully... well, the pun is inevitable... agreeable.
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Originally Posted by S on #31
I was the first to evidence actual suspicion of a specific person (Pitch, to be precise)
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Originally Posted by S on #33
In any case, I'm least okay with Pitch at the moment
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Originally Posted by S on #58
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Originally Posted by Pitchie
Indeed, I marvel at your audacity in suggesting such a thing, Master Nogrod. Holy Elbereth, there are ladies among us, and one of them a young maiden! Have you no decency?


Flattery will get you nowhere.

As for the matter of fake reveals which you broach there, I have yet to witness such an attempt being made successfully, but historical chronicles do mention precedences. Now as you are no doubt aware, the best way for such a fake claimant to fool us would be to sacrifice a real wolf in order to gain our trust, and the cobbler is in no position to do that, even if they were willing to, being as much in the dark as to the wolves' identity as we are. They might, of course, get a wolf lynched by mistake, deeming said wolf innocent, but then that would ill save the evil side. Therefore I don't think the danger of a cobbler fake-revealing very high, considering all sides. A wolf doing it, however, would be quite a different matter, as they could use their knowledge of who is furry and who isn't to lend credibility to their pretended dreams.

On the other hand, the cobbler, or a wolf, might still risk it in the hope to thus draw out the true Seer for the wolves to kill, as you seem to be considering here:

This is a two-edged blade. A false claim that is uncontested for too long and not disproven by mislynchings might be believed over a delayed counter-reveal... I think there are precedences to that in the histories, too. But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it, and in the meantime I trust in the wisdom of our
Seer to handle these matters without our prompting.
Here you are, Pitch. Bolding mine. I've noticed several other points ("Thanks for the advice" sticks out most noticably) as I've read the Day, as well.

I have to vote in a few minutes. I'd prefer not to turn this into Shasta vs. Lottie, but I will if I have to.
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Originally Posted by S votes Pitch on #60
I don't like Lottie's contrived reasons to vote for me, but she more often contrives reasons to vote when she's innocent, so I'll leave her alone today. Pitch sticks out as more suspicious to me today - agreeable, doesn't touch on more than the obvious topic of the cobbler, etc.
Well?

He singles out Pitchie in the first post with quite a sleight of hand - and comes back stressing that he had made the first actual suspicion of a specific person (and even added that it was Pitchie). And he repeats it and then goes to produce that odd piece of quotes from Pitchie which at least I can't find a decent suspicion even if I try my best.

Finally he will not vote for Lottie to help save himself but goes for Pitchie instead...

Uh-oh.

Some conclusions in a separate post shortly...
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