[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by tumhalad2

Such mysterious, providential forces are not to be found in the pages of CoH, and no character at any time hints at, or claims knowledge of, forces that they cannot immediately experience. Turin’s worldview is determinedly pragmatic; his quest is not divine, nor his life afforded divine protections. He is not defined by, nor compelled on by, unseen spiritual forces. Morgoth’s curse manifests itself in the wily machinations of Glaurung the dragon, or the cruel twists of ironic fate. Never does it seem that there are unknown, though beneficial, forces at work against this, or that Turin’s merely putting “faith” in the Valar would alleviate the curse.

What then do you make of the warning from Ulmo that Gelmir and Arminas delivered to Orodreth? If it had but been heeded, Nargothrond would have been preserved, Finduilas would have lived, and Túrin might never have come under Glaurung's spell in the first place. Wouldn't you call that a beneficial divine force at work?