Quote:
Originally Posted by Galadriel55
Welcome to the Downs, Tom-fool!
You bring up an interesting point.I never considered that before.
I think that it really depends n who is trying to overthrow Sauron. Aragorn beat him in a "battle of wills" via palantir, so if he also has the power of the Ring at his command, he would probably have enough of it tooverthrow Sauron in a one-on-one combat.
However, will Sauron die? I guess not. He didn't die even when the Ring was destroyed; he was just weakend to a point from which he can't return. The Ring always tries to find Sauron, so it would eventually betray Aragorn (or whoever has it). I wonder if it will even let itself be used as weapon aginst it's master.
Suppose a maia like Gandalf or Saruman could weaken Sauron without destroying the Ring. Then they'd (no, one of them) would take his place safely enough. But his power still exists in the Ring, so he will still have the chance to come back.
So my point is that you can kil him temporarely.  |
Interesting. I hadn't thought about the bolded bit before. Some more food for thought
Thanks for the response!
I'm intrigued that it's not mentioned as a key reason against using the ring because imo, it's an even more pertinent issue than the one's mentioned in the book. I mean what's the point in using the One Ring to throw Sauron down when all you're doing is sending him on a sabbatical (as long as it may be!) and in the process probably putting another Dark Lord in place. Then we'd eventually get to the situation where, when Sauron eventually regained power, that there'd be two Dark Lords in middle-earth!
At first I thought that Sauron was foolish for creating the One because of the obvious flaw that it presented and that the perceived gains weren't worth the risk. But the more I thought about it, the more foolproof the concept seemed.
If the point that I raised is true, then literally the only way that Sauron could be finally defeated (after creating the One) would be the followed path in the books i.e. willfully unmaking the Ring in Orodruin, and even that proved to be impossible, as was shown with Frodo while on the precipice.
I apologise for the babbling, as I know I'm going over stuff that you guys would have gone over a thousand times.
I feel like a Hobbit discussing herb-lore
.