Took a nap and this Day 2 stuff is getting tedious to go through. Will post the analysis on everyone I have, keep in mind it is mostly with the Day 1 action in mind, with some of the Day 2 discussion added in:
Cop:
Makes a vote for me that several pointed out being suspicious over. Mostly it seemed like a safe throwaway vote for Day 1 and reasoned purely as an unexplained gut-feeling.
Nog doesn’t understand where the idea came from that
Cop’s vote wasn’t random, but that came from
Cop herself who in #58 said it was either cast a vote for me, a random vote, or abstain from voting, so she decided the first option. It had the look of a random vote but
Cop was quite clear not to interpret it as random, but as having a bad gut-feeling. I still don’t like the vote, but it could just be revengeful feelings and you have to consider
Pom’s vote Day 1.
Pom would have known there was significant suspicion building against
Cop, especially after that string of post #92-94, all pointing out unease about
Cop.
Pom’s vote was opportunistic, which means she probably wasn’t trying to bus one of her mates.
Pom’s post after seeing
McCaber’s vote, looks like a wizard who tried to have it both ways. Someone who herself was jumping at the opportunistic lynch, but also trying to make herself look innocent by advising us to watch the
Cop voters.
Pom’s reaction just doesn’t fit with the interpretation of
Cop also being a wizard.
Gil:
Not much more to add than what I already said before, looks jumpy about anything he says seems to be getting turned on him. But agree with
sally in #96, don’t see why a Gilwizer would “lay it on so thick” with the victim act.
Inzil:
Nothing looks remotely off about
Zil, and I don’t say this to mean he looks too clean, but someone who normally has a good grasp on
Zil’s alignment. As a baddie
Zil is the master of double-talk and non-committal. Post 23 looks particularly innocent when he responds to
Morsul that
Pom’s statement (“And as little information as trolling around gives us, saying nothing gives us even less.”) was sensible enough but looked like a generic Day 1 comment.
Zil’s bussed packmates before, but I have a hard time seeing he’d put attention on a
Pomwizer and bus her Day 1.
Kath:
Nothing of note, other than we can say
Morsul seeing a cobbler-hint was indeed a grasp at straws.
Lottie:
Looks about as good as
Zil. The differences being Late in Day 1 she’s left her options open. In #121 states she feels good about
Greenie, Rikae and
Bane, her only listed suspect is
Pom. I say it leaves her options open because none of the ones she feels as innocent in 121 were in danger of being lynched. Then in #131 says she disagrees with the “waves of suspicion” against
Gil. Copper, and McCaber, and thus votes
Pom. Since
Lottie had made no statement about those 3 earlier, she had her options open, and could have been a mate bussing
Pom since she previously stated suspicions against
Pom.
The question remains if
Lottie’s a wizard, she clearly left her options open, saw there were 3 other choices, so why state dislike for the waves of suspicion that happened against
Gil, Copper, and
McCaber, why push
Pom to the lynch at all? There was no need for a wizard in
Lottie’s situation to vote for a packmate there.
McCaber:
The stand out point seems to be Day 1 he voted a few hours before the DL but still stayed around for the discussion. This caused some exchanges between him,
Greenie, and
Nog.
#116
McCaber explains his reasons:
Quote:
I had suspicions and didn't feel like waiting until the last 10 minutes of the Night to get them hashed out. I don't like last-minute surprises.
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I forgot to point this out earlier, but
Greenie’s response to this does not look good to me:
Quote:
Fair enough - although unless I'm mistaken, it's still over an hour until deadline. For myself, I'm seldom so sure on Day 1 that I'd feel ready to make a decision with that long still to go (provided that I was around until DL, anyway), especially since quite a lot tends to happen during the last two hours.
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She says “fair enough” which I take to be an acceptance of “to each their own, I do this differently but OK.” Despite seemingly accepting
McCaber’s explanation, she still puts a negative interpretation that it is still over an hour until the DL, and she wouldn’t make a decision that early if she was around until the DL. If
Greenie’s doesn’t look good,
Nog’s just looks bad:
Quote:
With Cab I'm most bothered about his last answer where he says he voted early because he doesn't like the last ten minute surprises while a) voting hours before the DL, and b) still had over an hour to hang around and post after his vote.
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Granted I don’t vote as early as
McCaber before the DL if I know I’m staying around, but I have done the same. If I’m sure my opinion isn’t going to change I don’t see a point in holding it for a last minute fury at the DL simply because I will still be around until the DL. I try more to give a person a chance to respond to suspicions if they’ve left for the day, but if I’m sure nothing will look more suspicious than someone making a bad-looking Day 1 vote why bother holding it to the end?
Nogrod tries to cast it as suspicious behavior, which I don't understand why it is suspicious?
Morsul:
What I said here -
Quote:
Morsul's is less buthersom, cuz we see a clear line of logic...er logical amongst troll herds...mmm herds need shepp'erds shepp'erds are some fine dining. Umm oh, Morsul's vote. I wouldn't vote for Kath based on his reasons, but his early vote dispalys his mind and what he's thinking clear enough. It's reasonin' we can track, if you follow me, and not gut-feelings.
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Boils down to we know what Morsul's thinking with his early vote. Can't tell what Cop is.
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Nerwen:
Aggressively pursues
Gil, but her reasons are understandable.
Gil gave her a 2nd vote early on for a bad reason. Doesn’t vote, a staple of
Nerwen except the infamously cursed game where she voted Day 1 and it seemed a mass illness spread through the entire village.
Nogrod:
Does chalk up his non-committal attitude for most of the day as having very little time, ok I can see that. More of a red flag though is what I stated in the
McCaber analysis…trying to frame the behavior that voting early while still being around after the vote is suspicious, that’s really a stretch and I don’t see why it should be interpreted as suspicious, just
McCaber having a different approach. Now, we also know his vote for
McCaber and strange “So it is
Pom” was not made by the cobbler. Given that many seem to be of the opinion “don’t worry about the cobbler, get the wizards, I wouldn’t put it past a
wizard-Nogrod to actually look like the cobbler, knowing there would be reluctance to voting for someone appearing to be a cobbler. As it stands though,
Nog can no longer go through with that plan, if indeed he is a wizard acting cobbler. (Needs to check
Nog's Day 2 posts to see if this "act like the cobbler because people are generally less gun-ho about lynching the cobbler" theory holds water).
Rikae:
Leaning innocent, later in the Day involved in much of the action. States unease about
Cop’s recap of the banter, but also quick to point out doesn’t like
Pom and
McCaber’s jump at voting for
Cop. #119 and #120 are interesting, she says
Greenie is being too agreeable for a troll, but recanted in 120 because
Greenie brings up points against
McCaber. Now, in Day 2
McCaber says it seems
Rikae was turning the focus away from
Pom and onto him, yet as I said earlier,
Greenie had been doing the same thing.
Greenie is then quick to confirm this is a shrewd point in
McCaber’s favor.
sally:
Lots of banter, but her end of the day actions are as green as can be. Looks like a wise sally voting wisely.
Shasta:
The clinching vote for
Pom,
Shasta will bus teammates if it makes him look better, but a
wizard-Shasta at this point had no need to make himself look particularly good. He wasn’t going to get lynched, no one stated suspicions against him. He’s not one to just backstab a mate when there was no immediate need to make himself look innocent.
Volo:
He’s all over the place with
McCaber (add now knowing he’s the cobbler, it makes more sense) from testing him in #55, saying in #132
McCaber is more on the “naughty side” and then suddenly #137 votes
Nerwen to now “save
McCaber.”
Looking at the first several posts today...it needs to be said
Volo is the cobbler, and while it is only logical he was killed because the wizards thought he was the seer, it doesn’t change the fact that
Volo was making statements to confuse, mislead, and go around in circles. So, while it’s reasonable to speculate “wizards were gunning for the seer,”
Volo’s posts were designed entirely with the intent to confuse us, therefore what he actually said needs to be looked at with a grain of salt, not stressed that it somehow contains traceable info because the wizards possibly thought he was the seer.
Also, I've so far left out my
Ozban analysis, because considering this drive for people to find seer hints in
Volo's posting. The fact remains Ozban was a lynched ordo. His conclusions may be wrong, but it's the intent behind his posting and reason we can now trust as innocent. We know he was posting with innocent intentions...
Volo wasn't. Period. I want to go through all of
Ozban's posts to see if any conclusions can be made, there is value to knowing we can trust
Ozban's intentions behind his posts. Can't trust
Volo's.
Edit: crossed with Rikae, Nerwen, Brinn several times...umm what is going on?