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Old 01-05-2014, 09:56 PM   #28
cellurdur
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Originally Posted by Willemijn View Post
Not so sure thatīs right, so Feanor and Galadriel back in Aman, being described as the greatest had better social standing and respect, than say Ingwe? For me greatness= spiritual power and the things you stated to some degree.
The quote was not based on what they had accomplished at the time, but on their entire lives. Ingwe for all his greatness, respect and power still did not actually achieve as much, because he stayed in Valinor.
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So you think Glorfindel is the mightiest, spirituel most powerful in existence (after Feanor and Luthien dead)?!?! Even Earendil? I also donīt think that Earendil is spiritual more powerful than Galadriel, to my knowlege there is no quote to claim that.
Yes Glorfindel was the mightiest elf in ME when he returned. There are many quotes about Earendil's power, which dwarfs everyone else.

Here is a simple comparison. Ancalagon the Black was more powerful than Melian, but in the end Earendil killed it. Earedil was called the mightiest of the Half-Elven, which means he was more powerful than Elrond an equal of Galadriel at the very least.
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I think IF that would be the case Tolkien would have mentioned that. I think many elves that were rebodied would have that special air of power and almost angelic glow, only Glordindel happend to return.

And by the way Inziladun, Finrod was re-embodied. He walks with his father in Eldamar.
Yes, but Glorfindel was an especially pure elf and he stands alone in having saved the life of Earendil. Unlike many and possibly all the other Noldor princes he left Valinor only due to kinship and loyalty to Turgon. His situation was unique, because in saving Earendil he allowed the Valar's plans to come to fruition.
OK, maybe she wasnīt that good a warrior but who was better in wisedom or song/magic (besides Luthien)? I think in wisedom, songs/magic, she reaces the peak of the pyramid, maybe even in crafting (besides Feanor) if we take the starglass and the mirror into consideration.[/QUOTE]
No she doesn't. Her displays of magic are not above those of Elwing, Feanor, Elrond or arguably her brother Luthien.

The statements you have made are completely made up.

In Lore Elrond was the mightiest.
In foresight it was Cirdan.
At music it was Daeron.
At crafting it was Feanor.

She is not even a close second in either of these categories.

Ironically Galadriel was probably a better warrior than she was a craftsman, singer or healer.
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I think in this case mightiest also means poticital power, she is only mightiest after Gil Galads dead, cause he was the king, and she wasnīt more influential than he was, but after he died, Galadriel had that sort of might Gil Galad had, only with less elves. But I donīt think that Gil Galad was spiritual more powerful than her.
No it's not, because the statement was before Gil-galad died. Galadriel never had the position that Gil-galad as King. Even after Gil-galad's death the most influential person amongst the elves would be Elrond.
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