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Old 06-09-2014, 04:08 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Alfirin View Post
But then we get to Saruman's tendency towards technology and mechanization. In and of themselves, tecnology is not neccecarily considered a bad thing in ME cosmology (if it was, Aule would have to be accounted among the bad guys). But choosing tech OVER nature clearly is.
It's interesting that you note this, because Saruman was originally a Maia of Aule, as was Sauron, and Aule did step over the line in creating the Dwarves.

There's also this:

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Then Manwe and Yavanna parted for that time, and Yavanna returned to Aule; and he was in his smithy, pouring molten metal into a mould. 'Eru is bountiful,' she said. 'Now let thy children beware! For there shall walk a power in the forests whose wrath they will arouse at their peril.'

'Nonetheless they will have need of wood,' said Aule, and he went on with his smith-work.
Aule is ever the pragmatist, recognising that nature is there to be used, but the key difference is where he says:

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they shall use all that they find in Arda: though not, by the purpose of Eru, without respect or without gratitude
Likelihood is that Saruman would have known Sauron personally before the latter turned to Melkor; they may even have worked on projects together during the initial work in Arda. A possible reason for Saruman/Curumo's choosing is that someone with this kind of knowledge of Sauron might be well-positioned to oppose him.

Aule does get a raw deal with his Maiar though, doesn't he? If I were one I'd be worried: "I'm next to be the evil guy, aren't I?"
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