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Old 07-01-2014, 09:14 AM   #9
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The Kitwaggon part I: Origins

So, other than basic suspicion based on the Skipwaggon the Day before, the first real post I found to suspect Kit is Nog's:
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Originally Posted by Nogrod View Post
I do agree with Encai that Kit has played very reasonably and her vote for Skip could be one that an innocent might have made if forced to get off at that point of the game. But this is interesting:
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Originally Posted by Encaitare View Post
On page 3, she agreed with Inzil that a Targaryen reveal would be better for later in the game.
On page 5, Day 2, she thinks that the Lovers chose to target Wilwa because they thought she was a Lion, trying to steer conversation toward the Lovers. She notes how Inzil brought up that the lovers would have to take sides.
I mean she doesn't seem to back others viewpoints or agree a lot but does that with Inzil a couple of times. Okay, that's based on Encai's analysis and she might have not reported everything (on purpose or without any) but that kind of thing actually does raise an eyebrow or two - especially as they both voted Skip, and Inzil was suspected & voted himself...
Then:
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Originally Posted by Thinlómien View Post
Kitanna - I can't pinpoint it, but something in her posting seems wrong to me, as does the fact that people have been defending her left and right even though she's hardly been under any suspicion toDay.
And then the start of the slip discussion:
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Originally Posted by A Little Green View Post
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Originally Posted by Kit, re: Gal
Though her death could have been a random choice because she didn't really mention any lions. In which case Volo and Mac look decent.
Didn't mention any lions? Meaning what?
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Originally Posted by Thinlómien View Post
And Greenie: good catch (again) about Kitanna! Can you proofread my thesis when I finally get around to writing it?
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Originally Posted by Nerwen View Post
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Originally Posted by Lommy
And Greenie: good catch (again) about Kitanna! Can you proofread my thesis when I finally get around to writing it?
Hey, I didn't even register that! What the-?
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Originally Posted by Nerwen View Post
Well, Kit, now that you're here-

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Originally Posted by Greenie
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Originally Posted by Kit, re: Gal
Though her death could have been a random choice because she didn't really mention any lions. In which case Volo and Mac look decent.
Didn't mention any lions? Meaning what?
Indeed. Meaning what?
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Originally Posted by Rikae View Post
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Originally Posted by A Little Green
Didn't mention any lions? Meaning what?
Seemed to me that she meant "it's possible she didn't mention any lions which would make her a random choice". In fact, that's the only way the stuff about Mac and Volo makes sense.
x'd with Rikae's previous post, but already finding more reasons to suspect Kit:
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Originally Posted by A Little Green View Post
Kitanna - Confuses me. I'm not sure what to make of her saying that Gal didn't mention any lions (although it's more than possible that I just didn't understand what she meant), and I agree with Lommy about the strangeness of people defending her so strongly when nobody really suspects her.
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Originally Posted by A Little Green View Post
I'm not super happy with the three who have already got some votes; I don't suspect Encai or Eomer and have no idea about Inzil. I'd prefer Mac or Kitanna toDay, would be okay with Lommy, Copper or Loslote too.
Second time it gets quoted, this time with even less context!
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Originally Posted by Nogrod View Post
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Originally Posted by Thinlómien View Post
And Greenie: good catch (again) about Kitanna! Can you proofread my thesis when I finally get around to writing it?
That was actually kind of mind-blowing - and I know I read the very same sentence earlier myself but didn't catch it...
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Originally Posted by Kit
Though her death could have been a random choice because she didn't really mention any lions.
Now this would be a slip of the year indeed! I mean yeah, how does she know she didn't mention any lions unless she knew who they were aka being one herself?

Could it be this easy? Probably not...

But I'm going to go back and see whom she actually left without notice (the first part of her list everyone - mysef included - have kind of ignored as "not seerish").
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Originally Posted by Kitanna View Post
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Originally Posted by Nerwen View Post
Well, Kit, now that you're here-


Indeed. Meaning what?
I mean. That she was chosen because she didn't specifically mention any lions in her posts. So they chose her as a no trace kill.

Edit: just a theory on why her since what she said didn't look too seerish to me, with the exception of her Wilwa defense
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Originally Posted by Thinlómien View Post
Wavering between Encai and Kit...

Inzil is a better choice than Mac, but not really too keen on either.
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Originally Posted by A Little Green View Post
I almost feel like I'd prefer Kit over Mac after all, but bringing in yet another candidate seems a bit silly at this point.
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Originally Posted by Thinlómien View Post
bah, I think this Mac-Inzil war is leading nowhere.

++Kitanna

Conclusion: Definitely something fishy. Just because so many people latched onto it already without checking (or at least pretending not to check) the context. If you're going to claim it's a slip, at least it should seem pretty convincing. But in this case, it only really looks like a slip without the context. And, I mean, a sentence that actually makes sense is always far more likely than one that doesn't and is also a slip (Sorry, started ranting there). Anyway, my point is that I don't think that everyone who latched onto it had the best intentions. Both Nog and Lommy were already suspecting Kit, so perhaps they could've overlooked it, being clouded by suspicion, but usually they're quite careful, so it seems unlikely that it's the case for both. And as was already proven by this point, pointing out a 'slip' (I'm not even confident that Mac's was one anyway, not that it matters now) is an easy way to spread a suspicion. I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of the three turned out to be a lion.

One more thing to note: mention of the 'slip' disappears after Rikae and Kit explain it away, but Lommy and Nog are still much more keen to lynch her after it's discovery. This could go either way: either it helped inflame their suspicions, or they're determined to have her as a lynch candidate.
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