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denethorthefirst · 07-19-2014, 03:04 PM

Hello Inziladun,

thanks for your welcome!

I have a problem with the "narrow" definition because its just so limited. Yes Sauron wanted to enslave people and directly dominate their mind, but there are only 19 rings of Power! If you follow the "narrow" definition that means a successful Sauron would enslave 19 (Leaders of) Elves ... but i dont think the rest of the Elves would follow them into domination and Saurons Rule, they would become suspicious sooner rather than later and exile or imprison their Leaders. So even IF his plan would have worked, he would only have 19, certainly powerful, enslaved Elves that he can directly dominate, but thats it, the elvish Kingdoms would still be independent from him! The second scenario ist just that much more universal and threatening.

But i like the Idea of the Three Elven Rings a a sort of National Project: all the remaining Noldor collectively pool their spiritual Power and concentrate it in the Three Rings and then entrust them to their Leaders in Order to preserve their Culture and Way of Life. Thats a cool Concept.

But maybe all this speculation is a bit too technical and beside the point ... LotR is essentially a fairy-tale and the Rings serve as a Metaphor for Power - and thats it.

07-19-2014, 03:04 PM	#20
denethorthefirst Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 81	Hello Inziladun, thanks for your welcome! I have a problem with the "narrow" definition because its just so limited. Yes Sauron wanted to enslave people and directly dominate their mind, but there are only 19 rings of Power! If you follow the "narrow" definition that means a successful Sauron would enslave 19 (Leaders of) Elves ... but i dont think the rest of the Elves would follow them into domination and Saurons Rule, they would become suspicious sooner rather than later and exile or imprison their Leaders. So even IF his plan would have worked, he would only have 19, certainly powerful, enslaved Elves that he can directly dominate, but thats it, the elvish Kingdoms would still be independent from him! The second scenario ist just that much more universal and threatening. But i like the Idea of the Three Elven Rings a a sort of National Project: all the remaining Noldor collectively pool their spiritual Power and concentrate it in the Three Rings and then entrust them to their Leaders in Order to preserve their Culture and Way of Life. Thats a cool Concept. But maybe all this speculation is a bit too technical and beside the point ... LotR is essentially a fairy-tale and the Rings serve as a Metaphor for Power - and thats it.