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Old 07-20-2014, 01:17 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by jallanite View Post
The Orcs whom Sam contacts telepathically and the Orc who is frightened by Sam are not themselves bearers of other Rings of Power. That the One Ring has a vague ability to somehow enhance Sauron’s ability to dominate other wills, is just vague. It does not work on Gollum who even till the end is opposed to Sauron’s will, though terrified by the thought of him. It does not work on Frodo who wishes rather to set himself up as a new Dark Lord opposed to Sauron.
I dont quite understand what youre trying to say ...
Both Sam and Frodo could, according to their own power, more easily dominate/impress other (weaker) wills when they wore the One Ring. It seemed to be an essential Function of the One Ring. Tolkien even states in some Letter (i dont have the exact quote) that it was the One Ring that allowed Sauron to dominate and seduce the Numenoreans during his stay on the island.
This easier "Domination" of Persons that dont wear another Ring of Power and the Control of the other Rings are the ONLY directly mentioned powers of the Ring - thats why i called it the "narrow" (based on textual evidence, not speculation) definition of the powers of the One Ring. All the other effects that mortal users like Isildur, Gollum, Bilbo and Frodo experience (prolonging of life, invisibility) are accidental side-effects that Sauron would not need, as an Ainu he is immortal and already partly in the unseen.
Gollums addiction to the One Ring seemed to have been stronger than his fear of Sauron (when Sauron was far away! I dont think Gollum "opposed" Saurons Will when they were in the same room during their little torture session! But Sauron is not the Ringbearer, Frodo is); and if Frodo concentrated enough, i think he would have been able to dominate Gollums will fairly quickly.

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