[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Wolf-on-wolf is certainly not out of the question. In fact, it's likely. With five of them, they could afford to sacrifice one if it made another one or two look rosier, especially since Urwen's departure gave them what amounts to a free kill.

I definitely think that wolf-on-wolf is a possibility, but this a first comment on the issue toDay seems suspicious to me. If Mac is innocent, then surely the majority of wolves are likely to be Mac voters. Of course, if Mac is also a wolf (which is very possible and something we shouldn't discount), this is more complicated, but only the wolves know whether he is.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Right. And may I say that Eönwë voting Hui because 'with the vote count as it is it's going to have to be this way', after he'd earlier listed Hui as 'fine for now', is as good a candidate for this as any.

Of course, this being focused on me may be part of why this rubs me the wrong way, but again, it does seem weird to focus on my vote (the one that actually got Hui quarantined) over all the others as your first post toDay.

Also, unless Mac is also a wolf, it doesn't really follow - I'd already mentioned my suspicion of Mac earlier that Day (though I did later say I was feeling
a bit better about him later), so I if I'd wanted a manufactured reason to go after him, there was already precedent.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I don't really see basically any reason for a wolf to vote Huin (except possibly something like the second vote if it looked like it wouldn't gain momentum? I need to have a better look how did it actually go) - I mean it would have been an absolutely unnecessary sacrifice from their pov. Even if Mac is a wolf too, he was surely the more expendable one out of the two with the amount of suspicion he'd garnered, while Huin had largely slipped unnoticed until the last minute bandwagon.

I actually think it's pretty likely that there is a wolf in the early Hui bandwaggon, but it gets decreasingly likely with each vote, especially once it was clear it was Hui vs. Mac (again, unless Mac is a wolf - I could see them being more likely to spread out their votes in that case).

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Therefore I would look toDay very hard at everyone who voted Mac after Huin got the first vote. Those were the people who protected Huin and there's almost certain to be AT LEAST one wolf in there, possibly more.

Agreed. Especially those who voted Hui after Lottie's vote caught them up to Mac's.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

However, I'm going to put this disclaimer now and say I will not be considering the possibility of wolf-on-wolf votes yesterday. I just think there's more suspicious votes to be focusing on that has wolves, than the votes of those who lynched a wolf.

This would be a good way of shielding packmates from scrutiny if Boro is a wolf, but I am sympathetic to his earlier comments about not being able to cover all ground/being stretched thin by the overwhelming number of people. On the other hand, both times it seems to cover the less-obvious wolves, which I do think is a little suspect.

I mostly agree with Lottie's post #598 (not quoted here because it's so long), except that I disagree that early Hui voters should be off the hook.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Then all of a sudden, in #552, he's 'open to a Huey vote', with no explanation. So, what has changed?

As I mentioned, I started to feel better about Mac, and as I'd previously not felt much about Hui, I went with my gut instinct.

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Seriously? Logically, the only thing she could have been, other than the ranger, was the seer. Yesterday, I repeatedly asked people who doubted her innocence for justification and got none.

I don't think it was a 100% obvious thing, and I'm a little suspicious of those who act like it was - it's a lot easier to believe someone's slip when you know no-one is trying to lie to you. I know part of my reason for putting her in the maybe suspicious category was to not make it such a big thing like you and Zil did. The more attention that got drawn to it, the more obvious it seemed.

Originally Posted by Lalaith

I did wonder about this yesterDay, and when that vote she led against Huey turned out so effective I really did think she really was the Seer.

This is a good point that I hadn't thought about. However, this is also pretty wolfy logic. I hadn't really gotten a good read on her yet, but this post is making me suspicious of Lalaith.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Eönwë -> Huinesoron 7

This one sealed the deal. As far as I understand, he was up to date and aware that he was condemning Huine. Pretty bold, when he could have as well sat back and seen what Shasta would do. Or voted Mac to save Huine. Generally a very innocent-seeming vote, but I'd like him to elaborate what he meant by the "it's going to have to be" here: "Ok, with the vote count looking as it is, it looks like it's going to have to be: ++Huinesoron"

Mostly just that since I'd just mentioned that I didn't really want to vote for Mac (because he was starting to seem more innocent), and previously I was open to Brinn or Hui, I was going to go with the latter.