Quite universally suspected, Sally made a hunter hint before any voting took place. She said:
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Originally Posted by Sally
Also, lynching me would either be a bad idea or a Very Bad Idea, depending on how my suspicions play out. Either way, you're not lynching a wolf, so maybe look elsewhere? Just saying.
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Personally, I think it was blatant enough for anyone to notice, but I think everyone who voted Sally before her actual reveal - apart from myself - either didn't notice it or purposefully ignored it, which is interesting. I would like to hear what THE Ka, Eönwë and Greenie have to say about what they thought of the Sally quote above at the time.
THE Ka ->
Sally
Pressed for time and weighed on by RL, casts the first vote on widely suspected
Sally. An innocent with a genuine suspicion of
Sally would do this, so could a wolf wishing to vote safely. Can't judge.
QT ->
Brinn
Whatever is going on here. I guess toDay's qt vote might help - if they for some reason vote for
Brinn again I think they know more than we do, and the
Brinn vote yesterDay was a wolvish double bluff that's obvious to the quarantined. If they vote for someone else than
Brinn toDay, then I don't think we can say much about this vote.
Eönwë ->
Sally 2
"Since I have to go now, I worry that if I leave, there might be a bandwaggon for someone I don't think is evil, so, let's make this a thing". Sounds quite genuine to me, which makes me feel a little better abut
Eönwë who's otherwise rubbing me the wrong way a lot. Of course, this could be
Wolfwë rephrasing "Since I have to go now, I worry that if I leave, there might be a bandwagon for one of my fellow wolves, so, let's make this a thing" - but I'm not sure he would be that open about it.
Kath ->
Inzil
"I won't be back now until deadline, and I still find
Inzil the most suspicious based on what I said in my earlier post". Hmm. She steers clear of the
Sally controversy with this, but to be fair, at this point it was no way clear that "whether we should lynch
Sally or not?" would be the main discussion topic. A safe vote that could have started a rival bandwagon, given how many people at least mildly suspected
Inzil, but didn't. Interesting.
Greenie ->
Sally 3
Says she x'ed with
Eönwë's vote for
Sally. "As mentioned before, debating between
Inzil and
Sally - finding out
Inzil's role would tell us more, but I'm slightly more certain about
Sally whose behaviour today has looked, to use
Shasta's word, much too scrambly for an innocent
Sally with an unfortunate but accidental vote placement the Day before." I think this vote doesn't tell us very much until we know
Zil's role.
Lommy ->
Sally 4
I'm not going to discuss my own vote because I feel like both others and myself have done that ad nauseam already. I'll just put my reasoning here: "I'm 90% sure she's a wolf after the latest drama she tried to pull, so why not give her a headstart when I'm not half as convinced about anyone else." By "the latest drama she tried to pull" I mean her hunter hint. I wasn't more specific about it, because I didn't want the "real hunter" to feel too pressured to counter-claim. (Also referred to this a little later when I said "Not buying
Sally's theatrics.", in case anyone's wondering.)
Inzil ->
Brinn 2
"You know what? I'm not going to hold out to try to save myself. ++
Brinn For being
Rikae's Day 1 vote, for getting by since, and because the QT baddies are daring us. Do the same, vote for someone else, or me," I really have zero idea what to make of this, but it makes me feel a tiny bit better about
Inzil. Wouldn't wolf try to make more sense? Also the comma in the end just leaves me baffled.
After this, Sally revealed for real, saying:
Quote:
Busy, but I must beg of you....
Hey, don't lynch your hunter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Possibly notable: She likely crossposted with Brinn saying she's debating between Inzil and Sally.
Reactions:
Pitch trusts her and says he got her hint earlier, a little later defends her too.
Legate is skeptical and asking who is she hunting. Later Legate gets very vocal about repeating the question, heavily distrusting Sally's claim in the process. Also agrees with me (see below) that we can't count on the wolves to reveal Sally's true role for us.
I didn't buy the reveal at all and explained why.
Shasta says he got the hint but isn't buying the claim either, later he adds we shouldn't nonetheless lynch Sally and explains why. (I disagree with this and explain why.)
Boro is frustrated and confused. Later agrees with Shasta that Sally is likely faking but we still shouldn't lynch her.
Lottie believes Sally and says she's happy to vote someone else. Also: "It's too close to the deadline and we have no idea who her pick would be anyway. I'm not voting for Sally." Tries to bring other candidates to the table, namely Zil and Boro.
Rune pops in and asks if he got people's reasons for suspecting Sally right, without saying whether he believes her claim or not - soon adds that lynching Sally is too high stakes for him.
Brinn is unsure/skeptical about the reveal.
Lalaith doesn't say this or that about whether she believes Sally or not, just notes: "Like Legate I want Sally to tell us who she is hunting. So much unanimity on Sally is a bit unsettling."
Mac doesn't trust Sally's reveal but it still makes him hesitant to lynch her.
Sally ->
Lottie
"Equal parts suspicion and self-preservation."
Lottie ->
Sally 5
Does quite a legate180. The only reason I can see is that
Sally didn't tell her hunting target, seemingly because she wasn't around. Vote accompanied about angry shouting that if
Sally is the hunter she shouldn't hunt her.
Lalaith ->
Sally 6
"Ok fine. Good luck if you're the Hunter
Sally. So long if you're not. I'll miss your insouciance either way." I don't really like this vote. As far as I can see,
Lalaith didn't particularly suspect
Sally - or anyone else besides
Legate, anyway, if memory serves.
Legate ->
Sally 7
"Her blood be on us and on our children." whatever that means. Stayed extremely skeptical of
Sally 'til the end.
Shasta ->
Sally 8
"-shrug emoji-" From a person who was pretty loud that we should lynch
Sally regardless of her role? Really?
Brinn ->
Sally 9
"If she's the hunter, I don't understand why she would not say her pick." Consistent disbelief of
Sally. But I have to say that her "quiet and reasonable" stance to the whole
Sally debacle could very well easily be fake. Her actions would be very safe for a wolf who has decided offing hunter!
Sally is worth the risk.
Rune ->
Inzil 2
"meh." Well, he's going with his suspicions, casting a somewhat doomed vote for someone he suspects, rather for an either wolf/hunter lynching whom he considered too big a risk. Makes sense.
Boro ->
Sally 10
"Really don't like the idea of a panic bandwagon against me. If you're the hunter, happy killing. If you're a wolf, thanks for giving me 500 heart attacks, but I'd consider us even considering the trick I pulled on you previously." The jumpiness here is a bit eyebrow-raising, but I can't disagree with the general sentiment about what if
Sally actually is the hunter, I mean I thought the same myself.
Mac ->
Greenie
"Just because.
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Pitch ->
Eonwe
"Is everybody allowed a throwaway vote once in the game?"
No vote:
Lhuna Not much to say about that, but speaking of her: don't look at her vote tally of yesterDay, it has several errors. I noticed because I used it as a basis for this pots while rereading the thread and the votes didn't add up. What I have presented here is the correct voting tally.
Thoughts: I'm not super keen on
Lalaith and
Shasta's votes, the former voting
Sally without even saying whether she believes her or not, the latter voting
Sally despite thinking it's a bad idea.
Brinn's attitude towards the whole debacle looks super safe, but not necessarily sinister.
I would still like to hear from
THE Ka,
Greenie and
Eönwë whether they caught
Sally's hunter hint and what they thought of it.
I am really baffled that there were a lot of people who were either skeptical of or downright against lynching
Sally, yet still they failed to bring forth another candidate. There was a lot of suspicion against especially
Inzil but also
Boro, but these didn't gain momentum. Why? Perhaps a lot of the people looking for alternatives for
Sally were actually wolves but they didn't want to bring a fellow to the block when the lynch was going in a nice direction for them* and bringing forward a second innocent lynch candidate who they hdn't suspected very vocally so far seemed like too conspicuous a move?
*barring of course the fact that some wolves might have been scared of lynching the hunter because she might target them, but there were very few people worried about who
Sally might actually pick - namely
Lottie,
Mac and
Rune
edit: xed with Greenie and Kath