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Old 07-28-2022, 04:08 AM   #3842
Galadriel55
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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took View Post
Is the last verse about Aragorn? Is the motherland Numenor?
No to both. The entire riddle talks about a single group, of which "I" is "the last". Motherland is not Numenor, but you have the right scale of destruction.

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Originally Posted by Pervinca
Tears sounds like Nienna. She lived alone, but did she have a sister?
Nienna is not one of the sisters.

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Originally Posted by Pervinca
I meant the first and second elves to wake - was the first called Imin?
Not them. The "oldest one" and "second" come from the same group as "the last". "Second" with an S is a separate entity.

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Originally Posted by Pervinca
What else did Feanor burn, or did you mean the ships and his spirit in general, or the life-force of his mother?
I was thinking Alqualonde and ships at Losgar. And I hope I didn't miss another major burning by him before he went up in flames himself - though it would be irrelevant, that line just refers to Feanor and his death, and you got that element already.


I thought this riddle would be really easy. It is very much a description cloaked in vague poetry. Some elements are very precise, and you can crack at them in similar fashion to Feanor. For this approach I can point you to the "estel" line - that too refers to very specific event and people. As another clue for "Second" - Second came from countries far, and that is important.

But in this case, you can also try to read the poetic gist of the riddle for a gestalt feeling. Also, knowing that the riddle talks about a group of related entities where "eldest", "second", and "last" are more clearly defined and some "sisters" in the second stanza are a bit more vaguely described - see if just by reading it as a poem you have any unifying theme jumping out at you, almost password-style.
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